strawberry floating hell, GRcade declaring the election is over, don't tell Trump!
Anyway, I was drafting a reply to Karl on an interesting subject in the election thread so here it is!
Karl_ wrote:captain red dog wrote:I always felt McCain was a decent man, even if I completely disagreed with him on policy.
Moggy's video goes into the specifics of why McCain was a turd, but just in general - don't you think that if someone's politics leads them to become a politician for the Republican Party, that's actually a reflection of their character? Not having a go but how can you separate the two?
I see loads of people always trying to salvage G.W. Bush's reputation like this too. Maybe this is a
militant, radical, communist view but I don't really care if he's into painting or nice to his dog, the dude is a monster.
I don't think GWB was a reasonable guy by any stretch. What he did with Blair was absolutely criminal in my opinion.
However, I try not to judge people by their party but by policy (aside from the fringe extremes, BNP, UKIP etc). In terms of republicans, there are many that I see as just plain wrong on policy rather than bad people. There are also those, take the Trump team for example, that I see as just disgusting people.
Dems are similar but to be honest I can't really name any bad actors off the top of my head as they align nearer to me on core issues. But from the perspective of a left wing Labour supporter, Dems are still significantly to the right of me, probably more right than UK Conservatives in many respects. So in that respect I can't jump for joy over Biden winning the presidency, although I am happy that someone a bit more left wing has won.
Having said that, I can't really say I have any friends who confess support for the Tories, and I simply can't imagine a time when I would be tempted to vote Tory, so maybe closer to home I feel the same as you. Although I have to confess I rarely discuss politics with my friends. It's some weird old fashioned thing I have where I don't discuss religion or politics with friends!