The Football Thread 2023/24: City get one hand on the Prem trophy, Villa get CL

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: Derby promoted, Brian Clough Trophy up for grabs in 24/25?
by BTB » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:24 am

I'm pretty sure the same thing happened with Rice for the other corner goal as well :lol:

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: Derby promoted, Brian Clough Trophy up for grabs in 24/25?
by Cuttooth » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:29 am

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What an embarrassing chant to sing at Saka. Didn't Chelsea fans do it recently as well?


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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: Derby promoted, Brian Clough Trophy up for grabs in 24/25?
by Preezy » Mon Apr 29, 2024 10:50 am

FAHK OFF U FAHKIN KAHNT

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: Derby promoted, Brian Clough Trophy up for grabs in 24/25?
by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:10 pm

Have you guys never sat near a corner before? These type of idiots exist at every club and happens every game.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: CL Semi Finals - BAYERN vs REAL / DORTMUND vs PSG
by Cuttooth » Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:29 pm

If they manage to do it, where would Ipswich's back-to-back promotions rank among the likes of Southampton and Norwich?

I see it as the most impressive achievement out of those who have done it, considering it's been over twenty years since they were last in the top flight.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: CL Semi Finals - BAYERN vs REAL / DORTMUND vs PSG
by Moggy » Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:37 pm

Cuttooth wrote:If they manage to do it, where would Ipswich's back-to-back promotions rank among the likes of Southampton and Norwich?

I see it as the most impressive achievement out of those who have done it, considering it's been over twenty years since they were last in the top flight.


Watford in the late '90s was impressive. Although hadn't been 20 years since they were top flight, more like 10 I think.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: CL Semi Finals - BAYERN vs REAL / DORTMUND vs PSG
by Tomous » Tue Apr 30, 2024 8:46 pm

A back to back promotion is even more impressive today when you're competing against relegated PL clubs with huge parachute payments.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: CL Semi Finals - BAYERN vs REAL / DORTMUND vs PSG
by Dowbocop » Wed May 01, 2024 12:54 am

Been thinking about this salary cap. I always thought that it would be a cap per player and not per team (don't the MLS have something like that?). Basically a small number of unlimited wage marquee spots, then capped for the rest of the named squad. It seems like clubs will have to plan over contract timeframes for an unknown cap value, which is going to lead to a financial offside trap situation.

I assume that most teams would want to be fairly close to the limit of this 5x turnover salary cap to remain competitive. However, if a very low-turnover club go up, could we be in a situation where most of the league will need to offload players to limbo under the cap, but nobody in the PL can take them because they're all in the same boat and most of Europe can't take them because of high PL wages?

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: CL Semi Finals - BAYERN vs REAL / DORTMUND vs PSG
by sawyerpip » Wed May 01, 2024 10:12 am

Dowbocop wrote:Been thinking about this salary cap. I always thought that it would be a cap per player and not per team (don't the MLS have something like that?). Basically a small number of unlimited wage marquee spots, then capped for the rest of the named squad. It seems like clubs will have to plan over contract timeframes for an unknown cap value, which is going to lead to a financial offside trap situation.

I assume that most teams would want to be fairly close to the limit of this 5x turnover salary cap to remain competitive. However, if a very low-turnover club go up, could we be in a situation where most of the league will need to offload players to limbo under the cap, but nobody in the PL can take them because they're all in the same boat and most of Europe can't take them because of high PL wages?


I think the 5x turnover is a spending cap, not a salary cap. So there shouldn't be any issues with a club not knowing how much it can spend on transfers in a given period.

Any salary cap would be completely separate and linked to a % of your own turnover presumably.

Having a moving spending cap based on who gets promoted/relegated is an interesting concept though. Presumably the lowest turnover clubs are probably likely to be the promoted clubs in most cases, so you could have the case of clubs wanting to influence who gets promoted or relegated (e.g. via player loans) in order to move their spending cap for an upcoming period.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: CL Semi Finals - BAYERN vs REAL / DORTMUND vs PSG
by Photek » Wed May 01, 2024 1:31 pm

Ipswich back in the Prem?

*plays Life of Riley by the Lightening Seeds*

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: CL Semi Finals - BAYERN vs REAL / DORTMUND vs PSG
by Moggy » Wed May 01, 2024 1:34 pm

Photek wrote:Ipswich back in the Prem?

*plays Life of Riley by the Lightening Seeds*


More like "Just A Little" by Liberty X.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: CL Semi Finals - BAYERN vs REAL / DORTMUND vs PSG
by Tomous » Wed May 01, 2024 3:20 pm

sawyerpip wrote:
Dowbocop wrote:Been thinking about this salary cap. I always thought that it would be a cap per player and not per team (don't the MLS have something like that?). Basically a small number of unlimited wage marquee spots, then capped for the rest of the named squad. It seems like clubs will have to plan over contract timeframes for an unknown cap value, which is going to lead to a financial offside trap situation.

I assume that most teams would want to be fairly close to the limit of this 5x turnover salary cap to remain competitive. However, if a very low-turnover club go up, could we be in a situation where most of the league will need to offload players to limbo under the cap, but nobody in the PL can take them because they're all in the same boat and most of Europe can't take them because of high PL wages?


I think the 5x turnover is a spending cap, not a salary cap. So there shouldn't be any issues with a club not knowing how much it can spend on transfers in a given period.

Any salary cap would be completely separate and linked to a % of your own turnover presumably.

Having a moving spending cap based on who gets promoted/relegated is an interesting concept though. Presumably the lowest turnover clubs are probably likely to be the promoted clubs in most cases, so you could have the case of clubs wanting to influence who gets promoted or relegated (e.g. via player loans) in order to move their spending cap for an upcoming period.



It's based on TV revenue only, so individual club revenue is irrelevant. At the moment, the bottom club earns £103.6m in TV revenue from the Sky deal so that is the figure they would multiply. If you use x4.5 the limit would be £466m and for 22-23 only City and Chelsea would have breached it. If you use x5, only Chelsea. So I'm not sure it will have a huge impact.

Also, the spending included is wages, agent fees and amortised transfer fees.

This has still only been voted through in principle and there's a long way to go before it being finalised. The PFA will definitely oppose it for example.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: CL Semi Finals - BAYERN vs REAL / DORTMUND vs PSG
by BOR » Wed May 01, 2024 8:23 pm

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: CL Semi Finals - BAYERN vs REAL / DORTMUND vs PSG
by sawyerpip » Thu May 02, 2024 5:34 am

Tomous wrote:Financial rule stuff.


Ah, I obviously misunderstood what I had read on this previously, that makes sense, cheers!

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: Poch vs Spuds TONIGHT
by Preezy » Thu May 02, 2024 12:28 pm

BBC Football wrote:Ralf Rangnick has confirmed he will stay as Austria manager, despite holding talks with Bayern Munich.

Former Manchester United boss Rangnick, 65, was negotiating with the club earlier this week.

He was expected to take over from Thomas Tuchel, who is leaving at the end of the season.

"I am the Austrian team boss with all my heart," Rangnick said.

"I would like to expressly emphasise that this is not a rejection of FC Bayern, but rather a decision for my team and our common goals."

Rangnick will lead Austria at this summer's European Championships in Germany, and is expected to stay for the remainder of his contract, which expires in 2026.

Bayern are not speaking with any other managers, and Rangnick is the second to remove himself from the running after Bayer Leverkusen boss Xabi Alonso had also been linked with the role.

Surprised he's turned this down, wonder who Bayern will try and go for now.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: Poch vs Spuds TONIGHT
by Moggy » Thu May 02, 2024 12:50 pm

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BBC Football wrote:Ralf Rangnick has confirmed he will stay as Austria manager, despite holding talks with Bayern Munich.

Former Manchester United boss Rangnick, 65, was negotiating with the club earlier this week.

He was expected to take over from Thomas Tuchel, who is leaving at the end of the season.

"I am the Austrian team boss with all my heart," Rangnick said.

"I would like to expressly emphasise that this is not a rejection of FC Bayern, but rather a decision for my team and our common goals."

Rangnick will lead Austria at this summer's European Championships in Germany, and is expected to stay for the remainder of his contract, which expires in 2026.

Bayern are not speaking with any other managers, and Rangnick is the second to remove himself from the running after Bayer Leverkusen boss Xabi Alonso had also been linked with the role.

Surprised he's turned this down, wonder who Bayern will try and go for now.


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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: Poch vs Spuds TONIGHT
by Preezy » Thu May 02, 2024 1:00 pm

It's the logical choice.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: Poch vs Spuds TONIGHT
by Benzin » Thu May 02, 2024 1:45 pm

Every time :lol:

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: Poch vs Spuds TONIGHT
by more heat than light » Sat May 04, 2024 2:36 pm

Fair play to Ipswich Town, back to back promotions and a Premier League team next season. Great achievement.

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PostRe: The Football Thread 2023/24: Poch vs Spuds TONIGHT
by Moggy » Sat May 04, 2024 2:36 pm

Glowy must be in dreamland this season. :lol:


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