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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:00 am 
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It must be the beer, because I honestly can't make sense of what you're saying.

I can't speak for the first Hostel (as mentioned, couldn't stay awake long enough to make it to the finale) but the second turns into a cartoon. Doesn't the chick throw the cock and balls to the dog? That is a proper Family Guy level of nonsensical violence, nor is it impactful in any way. Do you reference the 80's because it was an era dripping in hilarous violence? I find it interesting that you bring up that most modern horror is playing catch-up to the J-Horror boom, as two of the finest examples of that sub-genre (Ringu and Audition respectively) hit a far greater nerve than Hostel Pat II or the opening half of the first one ever did. Man, Audition is practically an unconventional romantic comedy until the final act, and it manages to make a decapitation not look like something from a parody flick.


And neither can I make sense of you at this point.

Yes, she does that. At the point where the standard parochial approach to the wealth-driven motivation of the elusive 'Elite Hunting' company is shown to be as the fundamentally ruthless core that it is, and and the 'bad guy' is not a rich, old-money white guy but a girl with a nice inheritance. Who is the bad guy in that scenario? The rich white guys? The company? The girl who pays for freedom with money she didn't earn? Any of them? All of them? The whole situation is a critique of the power of wealth. The rich guys are paying for what they want (it's a horror movie exaggeration of the exact situation you perpetuate when you buy cheap goods), the company is just an 'innocent' mediator connecting the highest bidder to a 'product' (see every corporation ever, again, distorted through the lens of a horror movie) and the final survivor was only able to save herself not through her own ingenuity nor tact nor skill, but through being unexpectedly rich through conservation of wealth in a capitalist system. Had a poorer person been in her position and she would be dead.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:07 am 
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Now I get it! I just don't agree with it. :roll:

Nah, you make good points. I however don't think they justify the film as a mark of quality, I've never been one to take a reading of a film to excuse areas where it is formally lacking. It makes a point of horrifying gore in some places, and then goes ultra low-budget in others. Characers may have intriguing end points, but the journey there is uneven and has a bare minimum of 20 minutes pure filler. The very final shot is wasteful, the possible exploration of the theme you present is put aside for a moment of unbelievable cliche.

I do like the idea though. Maybe that's why I made it to the end of this one and failed the first.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:16 am 
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I've never been one to take a reading of a film to excuse areas where it is formally lacking.



I'm a horror fan.

That is how I sleep at night.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:00 am 
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That bit at the end of Hostel 2 was like an ending to a story written by a 10 year old school kid. :lol:

"But then at the end, it was okay because the lady had a dad who was really rich and she said "I will pay you lots of money" and then lived happily ever after". :fp:


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:10 am 
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I actually quite liked Primer and while it might not be the most enjoyable film to watch (for most), I found it so damn interesting. I think a lot of the enjoyment came from just trying to figure it out. It's just a shame Shane Carruth hasn't worked on more films since then.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:25 am 
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Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy - 8/10

Very deep and complex, not a lot was explained to the audience but I still enjoyed it. Would liked to have seen what Karla looked like. Also, I don't think the Tom Hardy-character storyline was tidied up at the end, did they not tell him his girl got shot in the head?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:50 am 
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I actually quite liked Primer and while it might not be the most enjoyable film to watch (for most), I found it so damn interesting. I think a lot of the enjoyment came from just trying to figure it out. It's just a shame Shane Carruth hasn't worked on more films since then.

He's starting to get busy again. He worked on Looper and is directing Upstream Colour which should be out this year. Hopefully that does well and then he will finally be able to make A Topiary.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:38 pm 
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:37 pm 
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He's starting to get busy again. He worked on Looper and is directing Upstream Colour which should be out this year. Hopefully that does well and then he will finally be able to make A Topiary.

That's really good news!

Read a very brief synopsis of A Topiary :o I hope he gets to make it as it could potentially be amazing.

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Countdown to Zero.

A very interesting documentary about the risks of Nuclear terrorism and proliferation with some real eye opening moments. Well worth a watch for anyone interested in history as it has input from the US, UK, Russian Indian and Pakistani leadership as well as all sorts of interesting experts.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:18 pm 
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He's starting to get busy again. He worked on Looper and is directing Upstream Colour which should be out this year. Hopefully that does well and then he will finally be able to make A Topiary.

That's really good news!

Read a very brief synopsis of A Topiary :o I hope he gets to make it as it could potentially be amazing.

If you're interested I've got the script on my laptop and could upload it somewhere later on today. 8-)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:20 pm 
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If you're interested I've got the script on my laptop and could upload it somewhere later on today. 8-)

That would actually be pretty awesome dude! :D

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:51 pm 
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If you're interested I've got the script on my laptop and could upload it somewhere later on today. 8-)

That would actually be pretty awesome dude! :D


http://www.mediafire.com/?5g52hcfooa3y92f

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:04 pm 
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Predators 8/10

Underrated imo. Possibly better than Predator 2.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 12:48 am 
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Final Destination 3 - MEW (not the pokemon blorl) makes this one of the better FD films. :wub:

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Not as great as I was hoping but still bloody good

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:04 am 
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Nice little film. A sad storyline but at the same time the comedy elements in it were good. Makes me wanna go to Hawaii :)

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:48 am 
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The Artist 7/10 Saw the first 45 minutes and the the final 10 :lol: :fp: Due to tiredness not boredom. Was so strawberry floating wrecked. The girlfriend filled me in on the 30 minutes that I missed, but I liked what I saw.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 5:26 am 
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If you're interested I've got the script on my laptop and could upload it somewhere later on today. 8-)

That would actually be pretty awesome dude! :D


http://www.mediafire.com/?5g52hcfooa3y92f

Thanks a lot Sats :wub:

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:31 pm 
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Thoroughly entertaining. Grim as strawberry float though.

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