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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:10 pm 
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Decided to give Invincible a go and I've found it very good so far. I cracked the biggest smile when I came across this page:
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I picked up the first 5 hardcovers of Invincible cheap - I found I really liked it. Atom Eve is a great character and the stories have a very Spider-Man feel. Just awaiting the 7th hardcover now - will be out this year at some point.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:14 pm 
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Mainly reading trades of The Boys and Unwritten. I don't think The Boys won't survive the completion of it's major story arc though, and Unwritten clearly isn't meant to be a long term series.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:22 pm 
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Mainly reading trades of The Boys and Unwritten. I don't think The Boys won't survive the completion of it's major story arc though, and Unwritten clearly isn't meant to be a long term series.


You think the comic will get canned before hitting its final issue?

They're up to issue 63 right now and a quick search online says it's intended to be a 72 issue series.

It's not my favourite Ennis series, but when gooseberry fool gets interesting every now and then it leaves you speechless (I can see why DC wanted nothing to do with it). The other big shame about the series is Darick Robertson not being a regular on it.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:32 pm 
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Absolutely not. I meant that it can't carry on once the Butcher/Homelander explosion happens. It's now such a central concept that any thoughts of extending the series would see it run out of steam. It's already starting to drag its heels a little in trepidation for that showdown.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 7:49 pm 
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Absolutely not. I meant that it can't carry on once the Butcher/Homelander explosion happens. It's now such a central concept that any thoughts of extending the series would see it run out of steam. It's already starting to drag its heels a little in trepidation for that showdown.


Ah, I understand now. Yeah, you're probably right on all fronts there (especially seeing as there are only nine issues to go - if Wikipedia is correct). What gets to me is how not only has the proper confrontation between Butcher and Homelander been held off for so long but the same has happened with Homelander and that guy from Vought-American. But I can't complain too much when I also take into account some of the revelations we've seen. Looking forward to the climax.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:49 pm 
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Not liking this shite Captain Britain/Psylocke storyline in Uncanny X-Force :|

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:56 pm 
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Not liking this shite Captain Britain/Psylocke storyline in Uncanny X-Force :|


Yeah to put it lightly, it's a strawberry floating mess. Firstly Psylocke must have one of the most messed up history of any marvel character atm given the amount of times shes died/been resurrected/changed her powerset. Then the otherworld is hardly easy reading and the rubbish pastel-esque art doesn't help matters.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:58 pm 
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How did Uncanny X-Force's quality change so much? :cry:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:28 pm 
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Not liking this shite Captain Britain/Psylocke storyline in Uncanny X-Force :|


Yeah to put it lightly, it's a strawberry floating mess. Firstly Psylocke must have one of the most messed up history of any marvel character atm given the amount of times shes died/been resurrected/changed her powerset. Then the otherworld is hardly easy reading and the rubbish pastel-esque art doesn't help matters.

Aye this is the main problem I'm having with it.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:56 am 
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strawberry floating hell marvel have released the first 7 pages of AvX, so I had a read. Cyclops think he can control the phoenix force by training Hope and that it will lead to the rebirth of mutantkind. WHAT?!?! The irony is they write Magneto saying to Scott that he's starting to sound like him. Marvel have pretty much just turned Cyclops into Magneto now. If that's seriously Cyclops motivation for going to war with the Avengers then strawberry floating hell way to ruin one of the best character of the last few years (shut up mafro). :fp:

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:01 pm 
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http://uk.comics.ign.com/articles/121/1218255p1.html

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:06 pm 
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Ta, I'll give it a read over lunch. By the way, what's the current X-Men and avengers stories leading into this? I've just been reading older stuff from a few years ago and haven't caught up yet.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:14 pm 
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House of M- Scarlet Witch depowers mutants.
Messiah Complex- Hope the first new mutant since House of M is born.
Dark Avengers/ Utopia- Formation of Utopia
Second Coming- Hope comes back after being raised in the future.
Avengers The Childerens' Crusade has the Scarlet Witch returning, one issue left but apparently it has some bizarre characterisations.

You've read Schism so you know what happened there.

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strawberry floating hell marvel have released the first 7 pages of AvX, so I had a read. Cyclops think he can control the phoenix force by training Hope and that it will lead to the rebirth of mutantkind. WHAT?!?! The irony is they write Magneto saying to Scott that he's starting to sound like him. Marvel have pretty much just turned Cyclops into Magneto now. If that's seriously Cyclops motivation for going to war with the Avengers then strawberry floating hell way to ruin one of the best character of the last few years (shut up mafro). :fp:


I actually didn't think the writing nor art was that bad there but I just know I'm going to be annoyed by Cyclops' character assassination in this crossover. Cyclops acting more like Magneto has been going on for a while (he threatened the mayor of San Francisco in the Fear Itself tie-in and sent X-Force to murder their enemies) and the whole point of The Extinction Team is that humanity will be too scared to try anything against Utopia. This is interesting character development but I have a feeling he's going to be made comically evil in AVX to make the Avengers look good.


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Ta, I'll give it a read over lunch. By the way, what's the current X-Men and avengers stories leading into this? I've just been reading older stuff from a few years ago and haven't caught up yet.


Well all these ongoings series are going to have tie-ins to the event:

Avengers
New Avengers
Secret Avengers
Uncanny X-Men
Wolverine and the X-Men
Avengers Academy
X-Men: Legacy

But most of those series aren't leading into the event atm, they're doing their own stories and then we switch to AvX mode when the event starts in the main book. Reading the Marvel Point One one shot would be helpful, as it basically set ups all the future events in the marvel universe. Also technically Avengers X-Sanction mini series leads into this in some way, but it's by Jeph Loeb and it's as bad as Ultimates 3/Ultimatum. And Avengers The Childerens' Crusade is also leading into this event aswell with the return of Scarlet Witch.

I'd said all you need to know for the event is who Hope is and her past, the X-Men teams are post-Schism and the current Avenger teams post-Fear Itself.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:30 pm 
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strawberry floating hell marvel have released the first 7 pages of AvX, so I had a read. Cyclops think he can control the phoenix force by training Hope and that it will lead to the rebirth of mutantkind. WHAT?!?! The irony is they write Magneto saying to Scott that he's starting to sound like him. Marvel have pretty much just turned Cyclops into Magneto now. If that's seriously Cyclops motivation for going to war with the Avengers then strawberry floating hell way to ruin one of the best character of the last few years (shut up mafro). :fp:


I actually didn't think the writing nor art was that bad there but I just know I'm going to be annoyed by Cyclops' character assassination in this crossover. Cyclops acting more like Magneto has been going on for a while (he threatened the mayor of San Francisco in the Fear Itself tie-in and sent X-Force to murder their enemies) and the whole point of The Extinction Team is that humanity will be too scared to try anything against Utopia. This is interesting character development but I have a feeling he's going to be made comically evil in AVX to make the Avengers look good.


Yeah but that's only in light of mutants being pushed to the edge of extinction and then Osborn/Bastion/Hellfire Club trying to wipe them out for good. Now he's trying to use someone else as a host for one of the most powerful cosmic forces in the MU all for the betterment of mutantkind by wiping out everything on earth in the hope it leads to the rebirth of mutantkind as the dominant species, that's a step into supervillain territory.

Have you read about the Smallville comics btw?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:13 pm 
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I didn't read it as Cylcops wanted the phoenix to kill everything else on Earth (admittedly I skimmed the preview as I don't want too many spoilers), just that he wanted Hope to use the phoenix to boost her powers exponentially to restore mutants like she's doing already. The Phoenix has been in action on Earth repeatedly since the Dark Phoneix saga and indeed Jean used it to save everyone right before she most recently died in New X-Men. The idea that the phoenix is going to kill everyone comes from the Avengers who know nothing about mutant business.

I haven't heard anything recent on Smallville comics just a vague notion DC might make some.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 2:37 pm 
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I think the DVD's arrived. Will probably watch it next week.

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I didn't read it as Cylcops wanted the phoenix to kill everything else on Earth (admittedly I skimmed the preview as I don't want too many spoilers), just that he wanted Hope to use the phoenix to boost her powers exponentially to restore mutants like she's doing already. The Phoenix has been in action on Earth repeatedly since the Dark Phoneix saga and indeed Jean used it to save everyone right before she most recently died in New X-Men. The idea that the phoenix is going to kill everyone comes from the Avengers who know nothing about mutant business.

I haven't heard anything recent on Smallville comics just a vague notion DC might make some.


Maybe I read it wrong then, I got the impression Cyclops wants Hope to use the power as he said the phoenix force destroys everything, then rebirth follows that.

Well don't know if this is new to you or not then, but they're basically continuing in comic form like what happened with Buffy/Angel. http://uk.comics.ign.com/articles/121/1218317p1.html

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:13 pm 
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I think the DVD's arrived. Will probably watch it next week.


I have. Bryan Cranston is a great voice for Gordon, but McKenzie is far too light way as Bruce/Batman. I did enjoy it overall though.


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