Blackberry 10 OS (BBX) delayed until 2013
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... phone.html

Shares plunge 15%
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 77508.html

5,000 more jobs axed
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hones.html

Windows Phone market share to overtake Blackberry
http://www.pdasnews.com/articles/analys ... berry.html

Does Blackberry have a future?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... sfeed=true

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Was reading about this on The Verge last night, classic RIM. They've become a parody of themselves these days They've got nobody but themselves to blame for the situation they are in.

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I feel that those who have stayed with them up until now should be forced to use BB forever.

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I am uncomfortable with the analogue stick placement on the Dual Shock 4.

I wonder whether they'll make a switch to Windows/Android while in their death throes? It's obviously the OS that's killing them, surely they can make use of their unique design/messenger to eek out a niche.

Why they think they can compete in a market now populated by the big 3 (Apple, Google, Microsoft) is beyond me, perhaps they don't have the revenue to pull off a Nokia-style platform/ecosystem switch.

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There's a good article from the WSJ on the fuck-ups they've made which led to their downfall http://professional.wsj.com/article/SB1 ... 90408.html

There's also this beast of an article The Verge did a few months back which is a excellent read http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/21/27896 ... ost-empire

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Pretty sad considering that they pretty much invented the smartphone. I suppose this is similair to sony being pushed out of ther place in the music player market and kodak going to the dogs; failure to abandon 'safe' design and business models in the face of newer competition.

Enjoyed the bitching fest that followed the verge column to be honest

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1 > 2 > 3 >>>>>>> 4 >>>>> 5

Reminds me of what it was like working for IBM when MS were killing us in the early 90's.

The bit I gleamed from that:



You'd expect a company which has taken a market share hit like RIM has to be massively in debt with no cash. I think this shows that the company itself was actually handled pretty well despite the problems with innovation.

Their problem is the product. They refused to adapt whilst two companies went from nothing to having nearly everything. They need to take better care of their product range rather than just the company itself.

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It's not unique at all. You've got WhatsApp which is a cross-platform BBM-like messaging service, and on the iPhone and other iOS devices you've got iMessage. And the design has been copied on many, many other phones. There's nothing left that BlackBerry can really use to compete now.

And it's 'eke'.

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I always bought IBM computers up until they sold their business to Lenovo which was pretty sad to see. Since then I've moved to buying HP but their future doesn't seem secure either.

I remember our lecturer at uni being a walking advert for Palm telling us that WebOS would become to mobile computing what Windows is to desktop computing, a year later they were bought out by HP.

Unless you're Apple, Google or Microsoft its impossible to get a widely used OS going these days.

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HP are gash these days. I'm typing this on a Lenovo laptop and honestly it's the best laptop I've ever owned.

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I'll probably go with Samsung for my next laptop/tablet, if I switch from iPhone to WinPho8 I'll probably go with Samsung there too.

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The major difference with BBM is that it uses RIM's own network. That's what makes it stand out from the other messenger services, and it's still better than any other I've used.

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/research- ... everything

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And one of the most secure communication methods around if the panic of some governments is anything to go by.

I'd like to think Blackberry can survive if they branched out into Android devices as well, but if they did that then what is there to set them apart from every other Android device out there? I suppose they could make some of the Blackberry stuff like BBM compatible with Android, but besides that nothing. Their handsets are no longer anything special and seem to be appealing less and less to businesses which are increasingly focusing more on devices like Android and iPhone.
The only person I know interested in something like a Blackberry is my mum because she doesn't want a touchscreen device, but still wants to go on things like Facebook. Then again, perhaps that's a potential new market that is going relatively untapped.

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Haven't they lost something like $300m over the last 3 months?

What I always thought was weird was when I saw a BB about 3-4 years ago and it already looked really old fashioned. They look the same now to my untrained eyes!

Same here, I remember there being a lot of talk of the, then upcoming, Blackberry Storm being an iPhone killer. Instead it turned out to be an epic fail and I lost interest.

My mate's had a Bold for a year and other than it having a Facebook app I can't tell the difference between it and the old ones. I'm really into smartphones and whenever someone I know gets the latest Android/iPhone/Windows phone I have to grab it from them and analyse it, with Blackberrys I'm just not interested, have they even released any new phones this year?

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RIM were too slow to change even if they can hold out till the bbx turns up what then? Apple have pretty much solidify their position and Google are starting to finally get some coordination as can be seen with the new nexus 7 and MS will have Win 8 and WP8 out and those surface tablets! what can RIM actually offer the world?