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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:09 pm 
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Hi all!

Just got my first N64 from ebay, and have it hooked up to either my 32" Bravia, or 22" Samsung. I'm using the composite cable linked below.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B001ISZPJE/ref=s9_simh_gw_p63_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1N0N0848HWKPAM6AGEA8&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294

Frankly, the picture looks like ass. I know you're never going to get a console like this looking great on a hdtv, but does anyone have any tips on how to get the best out of it without buying an old standard def tv?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:15 pm 
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Use an RGB Scart cable.


Will that make a huge difference compared to this cable? I've got the current one plugged into a scart adapter, but assuming that doesn't make it the equivalent...!

And I assume you meant a dedicated scart like the one below...?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002VLGJ24/sr=1-1-catcorr/qid=1302974139/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1302974139&sr=1-1-catcorr&seller=

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Composite is terrible. The only thing worse is using the RF cable.

I think the one you linked to is what you need.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 5:30 pm 
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Composite is terrible. The only thing worse is using the RF cable.

I think the one you linked to is what you need.


Ah! Thanks for the advice. Will grab one and hopefully see the improvement!

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Hmm I think the n64 does not support rgb scart without a mod, although I am not 100% sure so check it out.


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Hmm I think the n64 does not support rgb scart without a mod, although I am not 100% sure so check it out.


I'm 100% certain that it does.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:57 am 
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Are you sure? A quick search on Google seems to suggest otherwise.

http://www.gamesx.com/rgbadd/rgbn64.htm

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For whatever reason, Nintendo opted to remove the RGB output from their N64. As near as I can tell it was a matter of a few traces from a chip (U4) to the AV output, but that's their business. According to 64 DREAM magazine, Nintendo knew RGB was the least popular method of connecting a SNES, so they didn't bother with the N64.


http://www.mmmonkey.co.uk/console/ninte ... 64_rgb.htm

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The N64 console doesn't officially support RGB. It can be added to some models of the console, it has to be an NTSC console (although mmmonkey has read that there is an early French Secam model that is also compatible), be careful though - as there are 2 different NTSC versions, only the earlier one is compatible.


I think the best connection method for the N64 was the S-Video cable. Well that's what N64 magazine said back in the day...


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I use my GC scart cable with my PAL N64 just fine :?

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The N64 will output a regular scart signal instead of RGB if you use a RGB scart cable.


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The N64 will output a regular scart signal instead of RGB if you use a RGB scart cable.


Yep, that is what I thought. Those murky visuals do give certain games added atmosphere though like the forest temple in zelda oot.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 9:53 am 
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Well now I'm entirely lost.

So best cable for pal N64 on hdtv is...

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:11 am 
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I've always wondered, is there any difference from using this:

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and this:

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The first one has the yellow cable coming out of the console and going into that converter -> Scart thing, whilst the second one comes out as Scart directly from the console.
Is there a difference in picture quality?

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Sputnik wrote:
I've always wondered, is there any difference from using this:

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and this:

Image

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The first one has the yellow cable coming out of the console and going into that converter -> Scart thing, whilst the second one comes out as Scart directly from the console.
Is there a difference in picture quality?


Top one is the wrong image, that is a component to rgb converter which won't work on an n64 anyway. The Yellow, Red and White leads won't produce a better image than an rgb lead (second pic), however n64 does not support the second cable at all apparently, so composite is the best way (yellow, red and white). The Scart adapter is merely there to allow all three leads to be conveniently attached to the tv, however most tv's have the separate 3 inputs anyway. If you do not want obscure titles, the virtual console is the way to go as the image is a lot crisper.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:25 pm 
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So i've taken delivery of an s-video cable - plugged it in on the side of my bravia, and nothing! Apart from the sound and a few flickers. If I unhook the S-video connector, leaving the red, white and yellow in it works fine (as if on composite).

Faulty cable? :fp:

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Interestingly, from what I can gather it may be a console issue. Some around the net seem to think s-video does not work with the later coloured consoles...? Anyone have any experience of this?

I've got the aqua blue one by the way...

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It seems as if you're right. A search on Google suggests Nintendo removed S-Video from UK consoles at some point after launch, even before when the colored versions were released :fp:

If you're determined to get the best picture possible on the N64 this might be of interest: http://www.robwebb1.plus.com/n64/n64.htm - a RGB modded console that plays USA and Japanese games for £39.


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systematic wrote:
It seems as if you're right. A search on Google suggests Nintendo removed S-Video from UK consoles at some point after launch, even before when the colored versions were released :fp:

If you're determined to get the best picture possible on the N64 this might be of interest: http://www.robwebb1.plus.com/n64/n64.htm - a RGB modded console that plays USA and Japanese games for £39.


Thanks - will look into the above.

What I don't get is from seeing pictures of peoples N64s set up on their HDTV, it always looks so much better and sharper than mine! Maybe my Bravia just isn't up to the job...!

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