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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:22 am 
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Nintendo Flexing Copyright Clout on YouTube Let’s Play Channels

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Nintendo is reportedly issuing “content ID match” claims on Let’s Play videos featuring their game franchises, according to prolific YouTuber Zack Scott, who is currently playing Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon.

Scott noted that Nintendo made content ID matches against a number of his videos, thus preventing him from monetizing those videos on YouTube.

In a Facebook post, Scott wrote the following message as an open letter to Nintendo:

I just want to express my feelings on the matter of Nintendo claiming not just my YouTube videos, but from several LPers as well.

I’m a Nintendo fan. I waited in the cold overnight to get a Wii. I’m a 3DS ambassador. I got a Wii U at midnight when I already had one in the mail. I’ve been a Nintendo fan since the NES, and I’ve owned all of their systems.

With that said, I think filing claims against LPers is backwards. Video games aren’t like movies or TV. Each play-through is a unique audiovisual experience. When I see a film that someone else is also watching, I don’t need to see it again. When I see a game that someone else is playing, I want to play that game for myself! Sure, there may be some people who watch games rather than play them, but are those people even gamers?

My viewers watch my gameplay videos for three main reasons:
1. To hear my commentary/review.
2. To learn about the game and how to play certain parts.
3. To see how I handle and react to certain parts of the game.

Since I started my gaming channel, I’ve played a lot of games. I love Nintendo, so I’ve included their games in my line-up. But until their claims are straightened out, I won’t be playing their games. I won’t because it jeopardizes my channel’s copyright standing and the livelihood of all LPers.


So, What the Hell are Content ID Matches, Anyway?
Note that content ID matches are different from ‘copyright strikes,’ which YouTube issues a channel after processing a verified request for the full removal of a video by the copyright owner. If a channel receives “three strikes,” YouTube suspends the channel and deletes all of its videos.

Content ID matches are less severe. When a publisher issues a content ID match against a video, it allows them to monetize that video with in-video ads, block it in certain countries, or even block it from playing worldwide. If a video is blocked worldwide as a result of a content ID match, the associated channel can lose its “good standing,” and as as result lose access to certain YouTube features.

Based on Nintendo’s statement to Game Front (below), it would appear they are not opting to block videos from playing outright, but rather monetize videos over a certain length with their own ads.

Widespread Complaints

Scott is not alone in his complaints, which have since been echoed by a number of other YouTubers, as well as Thomas Was Alone creator Mike Bithell.

Nintendo issued Game Front the following statement:

As part of our on-going push to ensure Nintendo content is shared across social media channels in an appropriate and safe way, we became a YouTube partner and as such in February 2013 we registered our copyright content in the YouTube database. For most fan videos this will not result in any changes, however, for those videos featuring Nintendo-owned content, such as images or audio of a certain length, adverts will now appear at the beginning, next to or at the end of the clips. We continually want our fans to enjoy sharing Nintendo content on YouTube, and that is why, unlike other entertainment companies, we have chosen not to block people using our intellectual property.

http://www.gamefront.com/nintendo-flexi ... -channels/

Basically saying you can share the content...just not profit from it in any way.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:43 am 
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Seems fair game to me. Looks like that crybaby will have to get a proper job now, loser.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 8:55 am 
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I'd be a lot more concerned about this if Nintendo had any games I wanted to play.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 9:19 am 
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Seems fair game to me. Looks like that crybaby will have to get a proper job now, loser.

Really? A quick Google search tells me that people earn $10 per 1000 views on YouTube. Presumably this person has a large following if he is caught Nintendo's eye, just think how many people are being exposed to their games.

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I'd imagine that this is an attempt by Nintendo to lock down on inappropriate content attached to their games. Pokemon vids with swearing in, that kind of thing.

You know, stuff you wouldn't want your kid coming across while browsing the tubes for Nintendo game info.


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Who wouldn't say that Sony and MicroSoft wouldn't do the same thing next gen?

Imagine Sony making money off MotorStorm Mondays?

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Game Front wrote:
Nintendo Flexing Copyright Clout on YouTube Let’s Play Channels

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Nintendo is reportedly issuing “content ID match” claims on Let’s Play videos featuring their game franchises, according to prolific YouTuber Zack Scott, who is currently playing Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon.

Scott noted that Nintendo made content ID matches against a number of his videos, thus preventing him from monetizing those videos on YouTube.

In a Facebook post, Scott wrote the following message as an open letter to Nintendo:

I just want to express my feelings on the matter of Nintendo claiming not just my YouTube videos, but from several LPers as well.

I’m a Nintendo fan. I waited in the cold overnight to get a Wii. I’m a 3DS ambassador. I got a Wii U at midnight when I already had one in the mail. I’ve been a Nintendo fan since the NES, and I’ve owned all of their systems.

With that said, I think filing claims against LPers is backwards. Video games aren’t like movies or TV. Each play-through is a unique audiovisual experience. When I see a film that someone else is also watching, I don’t need to see it again. When I see a game that someone else is playing, I want to play that game for myself! Sure, there may be some people who watch games rather than play them, but are those people even gamers?

My viewers watch my gameplay videos for three main reasons:
1. To hear my commentary/review.
2. To learn about the game and how to play certain parts.
3. To see how I handle and react to certain parts of the game.

Since I started my gaming channel, I’ve played a lot of games. I love Nintendo, so I’ve included their games in my line-up. But until their claims are straightened out, I won’t be playing their games. I won’t because it jeopardizes my channel’s copyright standing and the livelihood of all LPers.


So, What the Hell are Content ID Matches, Anyway?
Note that content ID matches are different from ‘copyright strikes,’ which YouTube issues a channel after processing a verified request for the full removal of a video by the copyright owner. If a channel receives “three strikes,” YouTube suspends the channel and deletes all of its videos.

Content ID matches are less severe. When a publisher issues a content ID match against a video, it allows them to monetize that video with in-video ads, block it in certain countries, or even block it from playing worldwide. If a video is blocked worldwide as a result of a content ID match, the associated channel can lose its “good standing,” and as as result lose access to certain YouTube features.

Based on Nintendo’s statement to Game Front (below), it would appear they are not opting to block videos from playing outright, but rather monetize videos over a certain length with their own ads.

Widespread Complaints

Scott is not alone in his complaints, which have since been echoed by a number of other YouTubers, as well as Thomas Was Alone creator Mike Bithell.

Nintendo issued Game Front the following statement:

As part of our on-going push to ensure Nintendo content is shared across social media channels in an appropriate and safe way, we became a YouTube partner and as such in February 2013 we registered our copyright content in the YouTube database. For most fan videos this will not result in any changes, however, for those videos featuring Nintendo-owned content, such as images or audio of a certain length, adverts will now appear at the beginning, next to or at the end of the clips. We continually want our fans to enjoy sharing Nintendo content on YouTube, and that is why, unlike other entertainment companies, we have chosen not to block people using our intellectual property.

http://www.gamefront.com/nintendo-flexi ... -channels/

Basically saying you can share the content...just not profit from it in any way.

This is a non-news story as, most, publishers don't like you making money from their IP without a license (and I should know... :slol: :slol: ). This is why we're focusing on official guides now, removes all the bullet-dodging and ambiguity. Nintendo are within their right and as they said, it's not like their outright blocking them (which can get an YT account suspended forever after three strikes).

For those still making money then it's all a matter of time for when the companies pick them up on their radar.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:30 am 
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Sega actually went around taking down gameplay footage from YouTube not that long ago - which kind of makes a mockery of the whole 'share' culture thing which Sony are making a fundamental feature on PS4.

I don't know on average how much gaming footage is taken down, but I have noticed some videos have been kept up but YouTube have muted the sound, presumably because of the music. Which in itself is a contradiction because that same song has been uploaded all over the site, most of the time without any video.

Hopefully most publishers are actually on board with it, and not just Sony, otherwise that 'share' button is going to be turned off in the majority of games.

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Not sure whether to go with "Nintendo in Cheapskates Shocker" or "The Wii U must be doing even worse than we thought."

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Not sure whether to go with "Nintendo in Cheapskates Shocker" or "The Wii U must be doing even worse than we thought."


On the plus side for Nintendo, it won't take them long to hunt down 3 Wii U youtube videos.

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Sega actually went around taking down gameplay footage from YouTube not that long ago - which kind of makes a mockery of the whole 'share' culture thing which Sony are making a fundamental feature on PS4.

I don't know on average how much gaming footage is taken down, but I have noticed some videos have been kept up but YouTube have muted the sound, presumably because of the music. Which in itself is a contradiction because that same song has been uploaded all over the site, most of the time without any video.

Google aren't obliged to do anything unless the owner or one of their representatives makes a claim against it.


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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 10:49 am 
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They aren't claiming the ad revenue, they are just advertising.

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They aren't claiming the ad revenue, they are just advertising.


ding ding ding.

There's a difference people.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:04 am 
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:06 am 
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Fine by me.

strawberry float LP'ers.


Yeah, and the those people that put out short videos of them messing about in games, for example Grand Thef.... Oh wait.

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Hey yo 'sup youtoob, this is ubergalaxyWiiMaster69 here wiv another lets play. Dis week amma play

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1cmanny1 wrote:
They aren't claiming the ad revenue, they are just advertising.


ding ding ding.

There's a difference people.

One of his Nintendo videos:

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Doesn't look like a Nintendo advert to me...

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Fine by me.

strawberry float LP'ers.


Yeah, and the those people that put out short videos of them messing about in games, for example Grand Thef.... Oh wait.


I dont monetise my videos.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 11:27 am 
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Of course he wouldn't :simper:

He would rather work at an office.

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