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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:20 pm 
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French benefits blocked unless restrictions lift; UK hopes fade; Quantic Dream considers Canada

France is on the brink of permanently losing its game tax breaks as industry officials urge Brussels to lift a new EU-wide ban on the initiative.

Develop understands that French protocols for game development tax relief expired, as scheduled, in January. The country’s scores of studios can no longer apply for the scheme, which usually offers a twenty per cent refund on production costs.

A reintroduction of the measure in France must be approved by Wouter Pieke, the European Commission Directorate General for Competition, but discussions between Pieke and French officials are thought to have tangled over several issues.
State aid is generally forbidden in EU law, but in 2007 game tax breaks were recognised as an exception until 2012.
Unless the exemption regulation is extended, the UK, France and all other EU states would be prohibited from enacting game tax breaks whether or not their governments approved them.

There is a “genuine concern” that the EU will not reintroduce tax break measures, a source familiar with the matter told Develop.

It remains unclear which side of the negotiating table is opposed to reinstating the measure. A source close to the matter said the issue “has become more complicated” since talks began.

European Commission officials are deliberating whether such benefits can distort the single market by giving companies in one EU state an unfair advantage over others.

Meanwhile, French officials, currently battling a national budgetary crisis ahead of a presidential election, are contemplating whether it can set taxpayer money aside to fund tax relief measures.

Develop understands that Paris studio Quantic Dream, the acclaimed developer of Heavy Rain, would likely transfer some of its resources to Canada if the block on tax breaks is permanent.

‘AN HISTORIC MISTAKE’

Guillaume de Fondaumiere, the co-CEO of Quantic Dream, has told the European Commission that “the abandonment of this flagship measure, which brings hope to a large number of European studios and which has demonstrated its effectiveness in France, would be an historic mistake”.

de Fondaumiere, also the chairman of the European Games Developer Federation (EGDF), warned that France would suffer from the same ‘brain-drain’ affecting the UK if tax breaks are abandoned.

“We would like to point out that this French measure has not caused any distortion in competition within the EU,” he wrote in a letter to Pieke and seen by Develop.

de Fondaumiere denied that France’s tax break protocols had given the nation an unfair advantage over other EU states, but insisted that they make France more appealing to global publishing firms.

“Ubisoft has relocated some of its production activities back to France between 2008 and 2011 – a step they clearly attributed to the video game tax credit,” he said.

Quantic Dream’s current projects still qualify for state aid. de Fondaumiere told Develop that, if France does not re-enact its tax breaks, he would look at how to utilise similar initiatives in Canada.

A European Commission spokesperson told Develop that “French authorities have said they want to extend the scheme and have now provided detailed information on the effects of the earlier measures”.

“The Commission is analysing the request - no decision has been taken.”


Holy gooseberry fool! That could spell some major changes across the entire industry. If this was to happen, the European industry is basically dead.

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And people wonder why there's disapproval of us being in the EU. Blanket-laws like this can do a lot of damage, and we have no say in it despite it affecting our games industry substantially.

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We really should just tell the EU to strawberry float off and give UK game industry the tax breaks anyway.

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These type of decisions should be left for each individual country to make a decision on, & not up to Brussels. Such blanket law making is ridiculous.

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The UK government has always resisted tax-breaks for the games industry anyway (regardless of party politics). As we all know financial services is the mighty foundation on which a new Greater Britain will be built. Making things and selling them? That's what poor countries like China do. Why make things when you can simply make money and, er, squirrel it away in offshore accounts?

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And people wonder why there's disapproval of us being in the EU. Blanket-laws like this can do a lot of damage, and we have no say in it despite it affecting our games industry substantially.

Dude, we didn't have any tax-breaks for video game production in the first place.

If anything, this would actually make us look more competitive if we had any kind of serious video-game production industry left to speak of.


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Back off Brussels!

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WTF is this gooseberry fool.

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Lotus wrote:
And people wonder why there's disapproval of us being in the EU. Blanket-laws like this can do a lot of damage, and we have no say in it despite it affecting our games industry substantially.

Dude, we didn't have any tax-breaks for video game production in the first place.

If anything, this would actually make us look more competitive if we had any kind of serious video-game production industry left to speak of.

I know we didn't, but as far as I know there's a lot of pressure and campaigning to push the government on this, and it COULD have happened. But if this goes through, then it won't have a chance. It's ridiculous that Brussels can dictate laws that affect our industries and people. What if we want to start being more competitive with the likes of Canada and make it easier for our games industry to start growing again? Oh, sorry, not allowed. It's bullshit.

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The UK government has always resisted tax-breaks for the games industry anyway (regardless of party politics). As we all know financial services is the mighty foundation on which a new Greater Britain will be built. Making things and selling them? That's what poor countries like China do. Why make things when you can simply make money and, er, squirrel it away in offshore accounts?


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WTF is this gooseberry fool.


I've never liked it when people say 'an historic'. You hear it on the news all the time. Grrr.


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Anyway... why should game studios be given tax breaks? Sell it to me.


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Anyway... why should game studios be given tax breaks? Sell it to me.

Because Canada's doing it, and so British studios are likely to up sticks and move there. Less games studios in Britain means less jobs in Britain etc.

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Ach it'll be fine I'm sure, all the UK needs to do is tax the studios, then give them money back in some legal loophole way.


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We're all moving to Canada anyway right, so who cares?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 6:33 pm 
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Devs/pubs buy up farms.
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These type of decisions should be left for each individual country to make a decision on, & not up to Brussels. Such blanket law making is ridiculous.


Actually isn't the EU there to make exactly this kind of blanket statement? For example, if Country F subsidised their farmers, then Country E would no longer be competitive without subsidies and farmers from Country F can take over the entire farming industry.

Of course this doesn't work with games because Canada undercuts everyone and isn't controlled by the EU.

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