You "pay" for it all in your subscriptionb fee, that's my point.

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I guess that's the same with the deals of the week on the Xbox then, as they're only available to Gold members.

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Has the Top Darts demo been taken down as I can't find it anywhere.

Except they don't give away free games to Gold members.

Oh wait, they're "giving away" online multiplayer.

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[STEAM] [PSN] [TWITTER] [LAST.FM] [RAPTR]

It certainly looks like it as I can't find it either (on PS3 or Vita). I can still re-download it from the previously downloaded menu though. Perhaps they realised they'd given away too much!

Technically it's sound.

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Damn it all to Hades .

Damn you Sony!

Holy gooseberry fool Rik's descent into masdness is complete.

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I agree with him in part, but I have the same view for both + and Live (and have subscriptions for neither). I think it is an odd viewpoint to have one though and then whinge about the other.

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It was the whole thing of saying that others had to wait. The game's official release date is Wednesday and has been for a month now. The option to give it to Plus subscribers was a gesture to those consumers and to maybe get a few more people to sign up to Plus. No one was missing out on anything over this.

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The worth of what Sony 'lend' plus users if usually far more than what you'd pay for a yearly sub anyway. Hell in the past few months's I've had Tomb Raider Underworld, Back to the Future, Sam and Max season 3, Far Cry 2, Trine 2 and god only knows what else for 'free.'

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I know, but it is a bit of a pisser to have to pay to get something early, particularly that you then have to pay to get the game on top.

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As for the cancelling and losing it argument, that is a bit like saying that if you cancel Gold then MS takes away the right to play games on-line that you've paid for. Both Sony and MS are trying to lock you into subscription models.

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I just see it as a bonus for being a Plus member.

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Half full/empty.

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Not at all.

You pay a subscription to PS Plus to get "Free Stuff", it isn't really "free" as you pay a subscription (Not saying it may not be value for money), when your subscription finishes you lose access to some of those games, basically you are renting them. That's not the same as discounts for Gold member on Live.

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You still get a lot of discounts with Plus too. Mostly day one discounts which is nice. But then they still have discounts for PSN peasants.

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When your Gold subscription ends you lose access to part of your games, the on-line component which you paid for when you first bought the game.

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Some screens of Arkedo's Hell Yeah!

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That looks stunning. Graphics style reminds me of the Amiga game Bubba n Stix. Probably with the benefit of some rose-tinted specs.

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Any idea what time Journey will be out tomorrow?

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