Windows 8 - Windows 8.1 now available!

So it is. How odd.

Personally I just use a Live account. It uses an offline version of your password that authenticating directly and the bonus you get from using it is daft not too.

1cmanny1 wrote:The App list is nothing like the start menu was. It is just designed for tablets, I cant even boot straight to desktop because I have to sign in to my account.

You have to sign in to XP, Vista and Windows 7 too, although also like those you can just set W8 to do so automatically. My lounge PC boots straight to the desktop when I turn it on, then straight into Steam Big Picture.

How do you do that?

Like this:

http://www.howtogeek.com/112919/how-to-make-your-windows-8-computer-logon-automatically/

Not exactly obvious, but it works.

Thank you. I also installed something called "Startisback", so now it is just like windows 7 :datass:

The UK price is like £400 for the 64GB and £500 for the 128GB.

Surface is kill.

The student price over here is also much lower isn't it?

Just checked and that is the student price. 400 snoops for 64 gig.

That's a mad deal in the states, imagine comparing that to nexus or ipad. Ipad is comparatively useless, you can run whatever you want on a surface pro which is the only really appealing thing about bearing in mind the competition and lack of apps.

Blimey, that is a mental deal for the US then!

Its also probably cheaper to get the US one and ship it over here than getting a UK one!

I imagine at that price it beats the hell out of a lot of mid to low range laptops, not to mention the hybrid/x2 ranges too as the Surface Pro is actually a pretty good spec.

I think MS is getting ahead of the curve here. In a few years the idea of a mobile operating system will be redundant as mobile devices become more powerful. The question is whether Apple will fail to fully integrate OSX on to iPad and iPhone and be left in the dust once more.

Not that I think Windows 8 is a great solution, it fact the interface is a bodged job really. What we need is a single OS that changes its user interface depending on the hardware it is running on; not one that tries to delivery the same experience on completely different platforms to the detriment of one or the other.

I think you are right about them being ahead of the game. It is two shoe horned together but its what they had to to do to get started.

Its something I think apple need to do but have failed and are terrified of doing and getting wrong.

The next few versions I think will start to improve the merge and it will be more tailored to the devices it is on.

Its not to everyones tastes but yeah they had to start somewhere, and it is something apple is going to have to do if they want to get the one OS for all that I'm pretty sure they have said they want to do int he past.

As much flak as ms get for win I do think they deserve a lot of credit for making such drastic changes and innovating far more than apple have ever done with their core platform.

The main problem with the Metro or Modern UI being so present on the PC version is that it is an enviroment tailored for apps and, quite frankly, using apps makes no sense on a PC. An app is a limited application designed for doing a single specific task in a simplified manner, which is incredibly useful if you are limited in the controls and screen space you have access to on a mobile device. This is much less useful on a device where you have a huge screen and a full keyboard + mouse attached and is why virtually no one on a PC is going to be using apps, especially as it limits their ability to multitask by not allowing things to be windowed.

One of the first things I did after installing Windows 8 on my PC was to uninstall all the apps that are useless to me as I have access to full applications on the desktop that are functionally superior.

I have heard that MS intend to make apps available as windows on the desktop in 8.2 and this might go a long way to actually giving them some functionality on a PC, but still makes the modern UI kind of useless. Personally I would love to see MS releasing software that can run in both a desktop form and a reduced app form so they can be seamlessly used between both environments, although that would probably be a major headache to design.

I use a couple of apps on full windows, IM+ is very useful on a PC.

Signs in to all my IM stuff I can split screen between desktop and it (in 8.1 you can make a thin section for it) and it means i dont have an IM app getting in the way, also it runs in the background so only pings up when something happens or I want it.

Its a weird way of working but it kind of does. It helps I think I ahve a surface that i use only TwinUI on.

It does make sense to allow apps to run on desktop though, I that would always have been step two of it, this was jsut a neccasery step on the way to integrating the environments its a but thrown together but it needed to be, and now its there they can start smoothing it all out.

Some may argue they should have done all this in testing but I think it is better is release this way as they got proper customer opinion and this needed to be done that way.

Looks like a 4g version of the surface is on they way.

http://blog.surface.com/b/surface/archive/2014/03/17/announcing-surface-2-at-amp-t-4g-lte.aspx

Tapatalk is now available for Windows 8 (x86, x86_64 and ARM)

Just installed it on my Surface RT, its nice!

The interface is awesome and it tabs everything, and its really smooth and well made. Much nicer than the WP8 version.

Only gripe is that there is no GIF support which is always the slowest thing to come to Tapatalk.

I find many, mainly larger gifs, don't work on tapatalk anyway.

Sadly on WP I find none of them work....

My new Vaio laptop arrives tomorrow :datass:

Vaio fit 11A if anyone is interested. Not the most powerful for the money, but it had a higher resolution screen than nearly anything else for the price and a metal case. Also a free 8Gb RAM upgrade. It will be the first time I've properly used Windows 8 since the beta :dread:

Sounds good, just give 8 a chance before giving up and installing Start8 or something like that as its not bad if you endure.

Windows 8 - Windows 8.1 now available!

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