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Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:22 am
by Errkal
Lex-Man wrote:
Jenuall wrote:
Lex-Man wrote:I actually won. Crown me kind of America.

Looking at how the US operates these days I don't think they have much time for "kind" anymore!


gooseberry fool I meant king. Bloody auto correct.


And that's why you can't be their kind, you don't admit a mistake you just run with it like it was intentional.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:55 am
by Pedz
JediDragon05 wrote:Given up trying to post a tweet (I still can’t do it :x ) Here’s the link

twitter.com/azaliafenty/status/1325116721724862471



Delete the ?onwards in the Url.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 7:57 am
by Moggy

twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1325951831667699712



:lol:

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:28 am
by Moggy
Photek wrote:The sooner people realise AOC’s views represent about 15% of Democrats the better. Had we listened to AOC and somehow got Bernie they’d have lost the Presidential Election.


What's interesting is the majority of Americans (Republicans as well) support many of the policies that AOC/Sanders want to implement.

But as soon as the word "socialist" is mentioned or the names of AOC/Sanders is shown, the support evaporates.

Which shows the power of brainwashing, people will actively vote against policies they support, just because they've been terrified into rejecting any form of socialism.

The fact that so many voted against Biden because they think he is radical left is astounding. Biden!! If you found the centre and put a dot in the middle, he'd still be more centre than that. :lol:

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 8:40 am
by Samuel_1
Moggy wrote:

twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1325951831667699712



:lol:

Amazing!
Anyone watch that press conference yesterday? Utterly terrifying.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:09 am
by Knoyleo
Photek wrote:The sooner people realise AOC’s views represent about 15% of Democrats the better. Had we listened to AOC and somehow got Bernie they’d have lost the Presidential Election.

Exit polls showed 70%+ of voters support some form of socialised healthcare, pathways to citizenship for illegal immigrants, and increased spending on green policies, so I'd say her views actually represent quite a lot of people.

twitter.com/GunnelsWarren/status/1323775954532093953


Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:17 am
by Drumstick
And if they really are Fox news numbers, I'd not be surprised if they're lower percentages than what was actually recorded.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:19 am
by Cuttooth
Photek wrote:The sooner people realise AOC’s views represent about 15% of Democrats the better. Had we listened to AOC and somehow got Bernie they’d have lost the Presidential Election.

The only thing we can be close to certain of in this statement is without the support of that 15% of Democrats, Biden wouldn't be president-elect right now.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:36 am
by That
Photek wrote:The sooner people realise AOC’s views represent about 15% of Democrats the better. Had we listened to AOC and somehow got Bernie they’d have lost the Presidential Election.

I don't think anyone really knows how a Sanders campaign would have gone (you might feel "free healthcare" could have resonated during a pandemic). It's not really the point, though. Leftists and progressives wanted a chance to make a case for "AOC's views" because those policies are the bare minimum to begin to mitigate the disasters of the 2030s. Radical change is the minimum. If that radical change isn't implemented pretty much immediately upon the Democrats entering office, then as happy as I am to see Trump removed, this election ultimately doesn't matter very much in the face of impending climate collapse and the rising tide of fascism.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:37 am
by Tomous
Knoyleo wrote:
Photek wrote:The sooner people realise AOC’s views represent about 15% of Democrats the better. Had we listened to AOC and somehow got Bernie they’d have lost the Presidential Election.

Exit polls showed 70%+ of voters support some form of socialised healthcare, pathways to citizenship for illegal immigrants, and increased spending on green policies, so I'd say her views actually represent quite a lot of people.

twitter.com/GunnelsWarren/status/1323775954532093953




Exit polls on election day voting would be Republican leaning too.


Drumstick wrote:And if they really are Fox news numbers, I'd not be surprised if they're lower percentages than what was actually recorded.



I've read Fox News polling is actually a decent standard, surprisingly.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:39 am
by Drumstick
Tomous wrote:
Drumstick wrote:And if they really are Fox news numbers, I'd not be surprised if they're lower percentages than what was actually recorded.

I've read Fox News polling is actually a decent standard, surprisingly.

Interesting. I would question why they wouldn't slant their polling, considering they put a slant on everything else.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:43 am
by Oblomov Boblomov
I've been told on here for years that all Americans hate the idea of socialised healthcare and I had come to believe it.

Now I'm told that actually 72% of them favour it.

Why is GRcade such fake news? :|

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:52 am
by Moggy
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I've been told on here for years that all Americans hate the idea of socialised healthcare and I had come to believe it.

Now I'm told that actually 72% of them favour it.

Why is GRcade such fake news? :|


They would hate socialised healthcare.

But a "government run healthcare plan"? They like that!

They've had over a century of being told "socialism is evil!" and they can't get out of that mindset. Call socialist policies something else though and they love the idea.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:57 am
by Memento Mori
Knoyleo wrote:
Photek wrote:The sooner people realise AOC’s views represent about 15% of Democrats the better. Had we listened to AOC and somehow got Bernie they’d have lost the Presidential Election.

Exit polls showed 70%+ of voters support some form of socialised healthcare, pathways to citizenship for illegal immigrants, and increased spending on green policies, so I'd say her views actually represent quite a lot of people.

twitter.com/GunnelsWarren/status/1323775954532093953


American voters like left-wing policies but not left-wing politicians.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:05 am
by Tomous
Drumstick wrote:
Tomous wrote:
Drumstick wrote:And if they really are Fox news numbers, I'd not be surprised if they're lower percentages than what was actually recorded.

I've read Fox News polling is actually a decent standard, surprisingly.

Interesting. I would question why they wouldn't slant their polling, considering they put a slant on everything else.


This was written before:

https://www.indiewire.com/2020/11/fox-n ... 234594935/


And it did seem to be the case. They certainly didn't play ball with Trump's demands over the election.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:13 am
by SEP
Moggy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I've been told on here for years that all Americans hate the idea of socialised healthcare and I had come to believe it.

Now I'm told that actually 72% of them favour it.

Why is GRcade such fake news? :|


They would hate socialised healthcare.

But a "government run healthcare plan"? They like that!

They've had over a century of being told "socialism is evil!" and they can't get out of that mindset. Call socialist policies something else though and they love the idea.


Call it "All-American National Health Care", and they'll vote for it in droves.

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:22 am
by Victor Mildew
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I've been told on here for years that all Americans hate the idea of socialised healthcare and I had come to believe it.

Now I'm told that actually 72% of them favour it.

Why is GRcade such fake news? :|


They would hate socialised healthcare.

But a "government run healthcare plan"? They like that!

They've had over a century of being told "socialism is evil!" and they can't get out of that mindset. Call socialist policies something else though and they love the idea.


Call it "All-American National Health Care", and they'll vote for it in droves.


Constitutional Care

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:23 am
by Moggy
Victor Mildew wrote:
Somebody Else's Problem wrote:
Moggy wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:I've been told on here for years that all Americans hate the idea of socialised healthcare and I had come to believe it.

Now I'm told that actually 72% of them favour it.

Why is GRcade such fake news? :|


They would hate socialised healthcare.

But a "government run healthcare plan"? They like that!

They've had over a century of being told "socialism is evil!" and they can't get out of that mindset. Call socialist policies something else though and they love the idea.


Call it "All-American National Health Care", and they'll vote for it in droves.


Constitutional Care


"Pro-life healthcare - Protecting your family"

Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:31 am
by Knoyleo
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Re: US Politics 3

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:33 am
by Corazon de Leon
The Democrats would do quite well to wrap any socialist policies in the flag of patriotism to get them passed. Wouldn't do them any harm anyway!