US Politics 3

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Moggy** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:20 pm

Albert wrote:Probably a stupid question but why can't it just be a straight forward 1 vote = 1 vote. Whoever has the most at the end wins?

That's unfair on Republicans.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Victor Mildew** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:26 pm

Albert wrote:Probably a stupid question but why can't it just be a straight forward 1 vote = 1 vote. Whoever has the most at the end wins?

Americans.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Moggy** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 5:40 pm

Victor Mildew wrote:
Albert wrote:Probably a stupid question but why can't it just be a straight forward 1 vote = 1 vote. Whoever has the most at the end wins?

Americans.

It's one area we can't laugh at them about. In the UK, getting 43.6% of the vote means an 80 seat majority and absolute power. :lol:

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Victor Mildew** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:07 pm

Moggy wrote:
Victor Mildew wrote:
Albert wrote:Probably a stupid question but why can't it just be a straight forward 1 vote = 1 vote. Whoever has the most at the end wins?

Americans.

It's one area we can't laugh at them about. In the UK, getting 43.6% of the vote means an 80 seat majority and absolute power.

Let me have this :capnscotty:

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Lex-Man** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 6:12 pm

What's the chance that Trump will get exactly double the Tories?

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Moggy** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 7:13 pm

Lex-Man wrote:What's the chance that Trump will get exactly double the Tories?

I think he'll get more than 3% :capnscotty:

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **<]:^D** » Wed Mar 06, 2024 9:09 pm

isnt it because 1 vote = 1 person isnt fair because California has 30m whatever people and Wisconsin has 1.4m - the states with lower pop would have 0 say?

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Cuttooth** » Thu Mar 07, 2024 6:43 am

<]:^D wrote:isnt it because 1 vote = 1 person isnt fair because California has 30m whatever people and Wisconsin has 1.4m - the states with lower pop would have 0 say?

They wouldn't have zero say, each voter from Wisconsin would have exactly the same voting power as anyone else in the country. Besides, if that was an issue then I don't see how somewhere like Wisconsin having 10 electoral votes against California's 54 doesn't already return the same problem of less populous states having no say, especially when way less than 100% of Californians voted for Biden.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **<]:^D** » Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:23 pm

but is the 54 to 10 an attempt to balance it out somewhat?

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Moggy** » Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:28 pm

It's a vote for the leader of a country. Each vote should count exactly the same, it's even more unfair that 30m Californians end up with a President they didn't want because 1.4m Wisconsinites get an exaggerated number of electoral college votes.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Cuttooth** » Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:35 am

<]:^D wrote:but is the 54 to 10 an attempt to balance it out somewhat?

There isn't anything to balance out, especially in a nationwide vote on the same question. If the Brexit referendum had been decided by constituency rather than a simple nationwide vote would it have made it more acceptable that Leave won ~63% of places?

No state should be considered a monolith in how they vote - Republican votes in California and Democrat votes in Texas ought to count exactly the same as anyone else's. No-one should have greater voting power based on where they live.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Harry Ola** » Fri Mar 08, 2024 7:52 am

Only the Senate is completely daft in terms of voting. Each state gets 2 senators. Congress is similar to our parliament, where each "seat" is a similar number of people, but obviously you can affect the number of seats you win in a State by gerrymandering. For the Presidential election, the bigger states get more electoral college votes. Most states then assign them first past the post which is why you can get a big mismatch between vote share and the outcome, as a few hundred votes in a swing state can affect the outcome.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Tomous** » Fri Mar 08, 2024 8:09 am

Throw in the extreme gerrymandering in Congress and an unelected Conservative Supreme Court legislating from the bench, and you have a completely ridiculous system thay is not at all representative of what people want. It's an absolute nonsense.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Monkey Man** » Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:42 pm

Very positive reception for the State of the Union. Should ease the old Man Biden story for a bit as he was very lively.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Preezy** » Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:56 pm

That was clearly a crisis actor, wake up sheeple!

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Victor Mildew** » Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:41 pm

It was really a hologram being operated by trump.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Knoyleo** » Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:59 pm

Joe Biden is a deepfake

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Oblomov Boblomov** » Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:00 pm

Imagine being alive in 2024 and still thinking Joe Biden ever even existed at all. Lol, just lol. I bet you don't even have a blue tick on X :lol:

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Grumpy David** » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:24 pm

Long twitter thread, I think the most interesting part is not that it's occurring but that it's occurring under Trump rather than any other Republican candidate:

twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1767198788689465639

Edit: missed out a word.

PostRe: US Politics 3 by **Tomous** » Mon Mar 11, 2024 4:32 pm

Anyone non-white voting Republican deserves everything they get :fp:

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