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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Mockmaster » Fri May 20, 2011 8:52 pm

John and Wai with a radio tribute to Macho Man

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Hank Scorpio » Fri May 20, 2011 8:54 pm

WWE Over the Limit
Chavo Guerrero vs. Sin Cara
Winner: Sin Cara
Brie Bella (c) vs. Kelly Kelly
Winner: Kelly Kelly
Will Kharma attack the loser?
Prediction:Yes
Big Show and Kane (c) vs. The New Nexus (CM Punk and Mason Ryan)
Winning team: The New Nexus
Winner: CM Punk
Loser: Kane
Rey Mysterio vs. R-Truth
Winner: Gay Mysterio
Wade Barrett (c) vs. Ezekiel Jackson
Winner (worth double): Wade Barrett
Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole
Winner (worth double): Jerry Lawler
Randy Orton (c) vs. Christian
Winner (worth triple): Randy Orton
John Cena (c) vs. The Miz
Winner (worth triple): John Cena

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by J. Vengeance » Fri May 20, 2011 8:59 pm

WWE Over the Limit
Chavo Guerrero vs. Sin Cara
Winner: Sin Cara
Brie Bella (c) vs. Kelly Kelly
Winner: Brie Bella
Will Kharma attack the loser?
Prediction: Yes
Big Show and Kane (c) vs. The New Nexus (CM Punk and Mason Ryan)
Winning team: The New Nexus
Winner: CM Punk
Loser: Big Show
Rey Mysterio vs. R-Truth
Winner: R-Truth
Wade Barrett (c) vs. Ezekiel Jackson
Winner (worth double): Ezekiel Jackson
Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole
Winner (worth double): Micheal Cole
Randy Orton (c) vs. Christian
Winner (worth triple): Randy Orton
John Cena (c) vs. The Miz
Winner (worth triple):John Cena

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by KK » Fri May 20, 2011 9:14 pm

Got round to watching the Sacrifice main event. Jesus Christ how bad was Mr. Anderson on commentary? It was verging on being uncomfortable. Makes Dolph Ziggler from a few months back look like Jim Ross in comparison.

Could they not have given him some notes or preparation to work off of, because he was clearly incapable of coming up with anything himself. He couldn't even sit down at the table without botching - he ripped Taz's headset right off his head.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Jam-Master Jay » Fri May 20, 2011 9:18 pm

KKLEIN wrote:Got round to watching the Sacrifice main event. Jesus Christ how bad was Mr. Anderson on commentary? It was verging on being uncomfortable. Makes Dolph Ziggler from a few months back look like Jim Ross in comparison.

Could they not have given him some notes or preparation to work off of, because he was clearly incapable of coming up with anything himself.


Hilarious wasn't it?

Short of a few umm's and aaah's it was just obvious how hard he was trying to think of something to say.

Majority of modern wrestlers are like that now sadly. 95% of the roster are given scripts and not allowed to deviate at all, so they have no way to get the experience like the guys used to.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by sw26 » Fri May 20, 2011 9:32 pm

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KKLEIN wrote:Got round to watching the Sacrifice main event. Jesus Christ how bad was Mr. Anderson on commentary? It was verging on being uncomfortable. Makes Dolph Ziggler from a few months back look like Jim Ross in comparison.

Could they not have given him some notes or preparation to work off of, because he was clearly incapable of coming up with anything himself.


Hilarious wasn't it?

Short of a few umm's and aaah's it was just obvious how hard he was trying to think of something to say.

Majority of modern wrestlers are like that now sadly. 95% of the roster are given scripts and not allowed to deviate at all, so they have no way to get the experience like the guys used to.


Ironically I think that Anderson's main problem is that he's given too much leeway in his promos. Listening to the LAW, they always reference his love for Family Guy which influences his quite frankly irritating promo style which is one of the main reasons I really dislike watching him on TV even when he's playing a babyface.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Jam-Master Jay » Fri May 20, 2011 10:50 pm

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Jam-Master Jay wrote:
KKLEIN wrote:Got round to watching the Sacrifice main event. Jesus Christ how bad was Mr. Anderson on commentary? It was verging on being uncomfortable. Makes Dolph Ziggler from a few months back look like Jim Ross in comparison.

Could they not have given him some notes or preparation to work off of, because he was clearly incapable of coming up with anything himself.


Hilarious wasn't it?

Short of a few umm's and aaah's it was just obvious how hard he was trying to think of something to say.

Majority of modern wrestlers are like that now sadly. 95% of the roster are given scripts and not allowed to deviate at all, so they have no way to get the experience like the guys used to.


Ironically I think that Anderson's main problem is that he's given too much leeway in his promos. Listening to the LAW, they always reference his love for Family Guy which influences his quite frankly irritating promo style which is one of the main reasons I really dislike watching him on TV even when he's playing a babyface.


Haven't listened to LAW yet. :shifty:

There definitely have been a number of Family Guy references in his promos though like you say. Perhaps Anderson can write his own material but if Sunday is anything to go off he's not very adept at coming up with things on the spot. Quite the problem if the announcers are trying to conduct an interview whilst calling the match. I do believe that the TNA roster are granted a little more freedom with their promos than the majority of the WWE roster. A talent like The Rock, Stone Cold, Cena, Punk or Jericho can adjust their promos on the fly after guaging the crowd reaction unlike so many other modern stars.

Sort of related, but I've heard the WWE is looking into bringing back managers for some of the wrestlers who aren't so good on the mic. Arn Anderson is rumoured to be up for a role which would be great imo. :wub:

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Mafro » Fri May 20, 2011 10:57 pm

I think the rumour was pairing Arn Anderson with Daniel Bryan.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Jam-Master Jay » Fri May 20, 2011 10:59 pm

Gotta say that would be an awesome combo. :wub:

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Dblock » Fri May 20, 2011 11:00 pm

Ginga wrote:I'm still shocked about this. He was such a big part of my childhood


:cry: :cry: :cry:

This.

''Saying it's because I was controlling you and making you sad when actually I just asked you to wear some trousers'' :lol: :lol:
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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Chocolate Jim » Fri May 20, 2011 11:02 pm

WWE Over the Limit
Chavo Guerrero vs. Sin Cara
Winner: Sin Cara
Brie Bella (c) vs. Kelly Kelly
Winner: Brie Bella
Will Kharma attack the loser?
Prediction: Yes
Big Show and Kane (c) vs. The New Nexus (CM Punk and Mason Ryan)
Winning team: The New Nexus
Winner: CM Punk
Loser: Kane
Rey Mysterio vs. R-Truth
Winner: R-Truth
Wade Barrett (c) vs. Ezekiel Jackson
Winner (worth double): Ezekiel Jackson by DQ
Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole
Winner (worth double): Jerry Lawler
Randy Orton (c) vs. Christian
Winner (worth triple): Randy Orton
John Cena (c) vs. The Miz
Winner (worth triple):John Cena

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: WWE Over The Edge; Sunday, Sky Spo
by Miguel007 » Fri May 20, 2011 11:05 pm

WWE Over the Limit
Chavo Guerrero vs. Sin Cara
Winner: Sin Cara
Brie Bella (c) vs. Kelly Kelly
Winner: Kelly Kelly
Will Kharma attack the loser?
Prediction: Yes
Big Show and Kane (c) vs. The New Nexus (CM Punk and Mason Ryan)
Winning team: The New Nexus
Winner: CM Punk
Loser: Big Show
Rey Mysterio vs. R-Truth
Winner: R-Truth
Wade Barrett (c) vs. Ezekiel Jackson
Winner (worth double): Ezekiel Jackson
Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole
Winner (worth double): Jerry Lawler
Randy Orton (c) vs. Christian
Winner (worth triple): Christian
John Cena (c) vs. The Miz
Winner (worth triple): John Cena

Also RIP Macho Man, sad loss.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Jam-Master Jay » Fri May 20, 2011 11:13 pm

Lucien wrote:Did Punk sign a new contract?


Hasn't been confirmed although it looked like the start of a new push on the last edition of RAW. However, they could just be doing that to put someone over on his way out.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: WWE Over The Edge; Sunday, Sky Spo
by Return_of_the_STAR » Fri May 20, 2011 11:14 pm

WWE Over the Limit
Chavo Guerrero vs. Sin Cara
Winner: Sin Cara
Brie Bella (c) vs. Kelly Kelly
Winner: Kelly Kelly
Will Kharma attack the loser?
Prediction: Yes
Big Show and Kane (c) vs. The New Nexus (CM Punk and Mason Ryan)
Winning team: The New Nexus
Winner: CM Punk
Loser: Big Show
Rey Mysterio vs. R-Truth
Winner: Rey mysterio
Wade Barrett (c) vs. Ezekiel Jackson
Winner (worth double): wade barrett
Jerry Lawler vs. Michael Cole
Winner (worth double): Jerry Lawler
Randy Orton (c) vs. Christian
Winner (worth triple): randy orton
John Cena (c) vs. The Miz
Winner (worth triple): John Cena

Also RIP Macho Man :cry:

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Oh Teh Noes » Fri May 20, 2011 11:16 pm

You know what's scary? Randy Savage was the same age as my mum when he died. :(

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by A J Styles » Fri May 20, 2011 11:32 pm

Any TNA links?

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Cosmo » Fri May 20, 2011 11:43 pm

JR's latest blog is about Savage.

I was never close to Randy Savage but I had immense respect for his in ring work. Savage was a gifted high flier, had uncanny crowd psychology and a tough, athletic persona that could not be duplicated.

'Macho Man' Randy Savage was a legit star in the world of pro wrestling and one of the most famous wrestlers of any era.

My first exposure to Savage was in the early to mid 80's when Bill Watts was preparing to bring Savage into the Mid South territory. We had received several interviews and other video tape from Randy to compile 4-6 weeks of introductory vignettes that would intro Savage to the Mid South TV audience most of who had never seen 'Macho Man' Randy Savage in person.

I can still vividly remember working with fellow Watts employee Scott Munz on the edit of the vignettes while writing copy and then voicing over the features.

Ironically, after working several long nights on this project the vignettes never aired. Savage never made it to Mid South.

At that time, according to a text message earlier today from Watts himself, Savage was running 'opposition' against the Jarrett/Lawler 'Tennessee' territory. This business strategy put Savage on the wrong side of many promoters especially those who were friends of Jarrett and company and certainly those who supported NWA camps.

According to Watts, Savage was in need of bookings and the paydays that went along with them and wanted to come to work for the big Cowboy. I recall looking at the footage of Savage with Bill and we were both obviously impressed with what we saw.

Watts had a good relationship at that time with Jerry Jarrett, they even did a talent trade once upon a time that helped both territories, and Bill knew that if Jarrett/Lawler/Savage could work together that they could all make money as the volatile 'opposition' plot line had received main stream, local publicity and had piqued the publics interest.

Watts was able to help broker 'peace' between Jarrett and Savage by having, as I recall, a very stern, man to man talk with Savage about missed opportunities and the fact that most old school promoters would always look upon Randy unfavorably because of his family running opposition especially if Randy was not willing to extend the olive branch.

The rest is essentially wrestling history. Peace was restored in the Jarrett/Lawler/Savage area while King and Macho Man launched one of the hottest issues ever in the business. The two artisans sold out the legendary Rupp Arena in Lexington, Kentucky that held well over 20,000 fans with more fans buying tickets to that event than virtually any other indoor event of that era including such famous arenas as Madison Square Garden.

In 1985 Savage roared into the WWE and his star was hung prominently for the entire world to see and did it ever shine brightly!

BTW after Savage left WWE and doing huge business while earning mega bucks, Randy called Bill Watts to thank Bill for Cowboy's advice back in the day which eventually got Savage noticed as a potential, main event acquisition for WWE.

Randy Savage is arguably one of the top 2-3 wrestlers that helped establish the WWE as the dominate promotion of its kind in the world. Savage deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Andre, Hulk, Piper, etc.

When I arrived in WWE in 1993, Savage was, unknown to me, on his way out. Randy, Bobby Heenan and I broadcast WM9 from ringside at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas on my first live, TV assignment for WWE. Broadcasting with 'Macho Man' was never easy but it was also never dull. He was as unpredictable wearing headsets as he was in his wrestling tights.

Unpredictability and breaking molds is a marketable trait and without question 'Macho Man' Randy Savage was one of the most marketable, unforgettable persona's to ever grace the squared circle.

Savage as a pitchman for Slim Jim was an instant success and forged an unforgettable image for the Slim Jim company that Randy literally put on his broad shoulders and carried to prominence back in the day when Slim Jim was attempting to gain a foothold in the snack food market. Some might argue that Savage is as well known for his ubiquitous Slim Jim commercials as he was for his wrestling exploits.

In my over four decades in the business, I have never encountered anyone who I perceived was as intense, 24X7, as 'Macho Man' Randy Savage. He was a gifted athlete, he played minor league baseball a handful of years, and brought artful athleticism and raw reality to his profession.

Before I ever stepped foot in WWE, I thought, as one who was earning a living in the business elsewhere, that the Savage-Steamboat match from WM3 was the best WWE match that I had ever seen. A handful of other bouts since then have ranked right up there with it but after a quarter of a century the 'Macho Man-Dragon' encounter from the Pontiac Silverdome still holds up today as an all time wrestling classic.

One never had to guess where they stood with Savage and he never had any issues expressing himself. He was, seemingly, always on edge or, perhaps more specifically, on point. Randy carried himself as one not to be trifled with and as a man who had great passion for his profession and unmatched intensity.

Fans of the genre of pro wrestling lost one of the most famous and skilled performers of all time this morning in Tampa when the former WWE Champion apparently had a heart attack while driving his vehicle with his wife of one year who was the sole passenger.

Our condolences go out to the Poffo family, Macho Man's friends and fans and to all whose lives were touched by 'Macho Madness.'

RIP Macho Man Randy Savage.

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Prototype » Fri May 20, 2011 11:59 pm

What in the name of strawberry float did Orton just do?! :lol:

I NEED A GIF

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by A J Styles » Sat May 21, 2011 12:01 am

Prototype wrote:What in the name of strawberry float did Orton just do?! :lol:

I NEED A GIF


The best thing he has done for 2 years :lol: :lol:

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PostRe: Wrestling Thread: R.I.P Randy 'Macho Man' Savage 1952 -
by Mockmaster » Sat May 21, 2011 12:03 am

What did he do?


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