The Wrestling Thread: WWE WrestleMania 31 [NSFW]

[Skippy]

The ratings will be HUGE.

Dream scenario. Book Hart as guest host for January 4th, book Taker/HBK rematch..... Hart interferes, bob's your uncle.

I will be watching everything he's on

[HailToTheKingBaby!]

The Bret news is awesome if true though part of me hopes it'll be more as just an on air role with maybe some sort of storyline involving Vince. Having him wrestle, I'm not sure about.

He had a serious injury that put him out of wrestling and after that had a stroke, one mistake from him or his opponent could be a disastor and personally, I don't think it's worth the risk even to see him wrestle one last time. Just seeing him on RAW/Wrestlemania is amazing enough I'd say.

[KK]

I don't think it's possible to kick start 2010 any better.

(Well, apart from the shock return of Raw is War, maybe...)

[Baron Zemo]

I don't think it's possible to kick start 2010 any better.

(Well, apart from the shock return of Raw is War, maybe...)

The Rock returning would make it just

[KK]

AMERICAN President Barack Obama has denied taping a special message for WWE's Tribute to the Troops TV show.

Vince McMahon's company sent out a press release earlier this week announcing that Obama would be delivering a pre-recorded speech on the show, which airs on NBC.

It was seen by many as a boost not only for the WWE, but also Vince's wife Linda's campaign for a US Senate seat.

However a White House spokesman insists Obama did NOT tape his message exclusively for the wrestling programme.

Instead, the spokesman revealed the President taped a general greeting that was made available to any media outlet who wanted to air it.

The Hartford Courant reports that the script contains a generic message of gratitude to the troops, but does not mention the WWE.

The statement comes as a blow to Republican Linda, whose political team were using the Democrat President's appearance to deflect criticism from her own time running the WWE.

Her spokesman Ed Patru had previously boasted: "The President's involvement with WWE underscores what we've been saying all along — WWE is broadly recognised as a company that for years has made tremendous contributions to the community, to the state of Connecticut and to men and women in uniform.

"It creates hundreds of jobs, it promotes literacy, it makes dreams come true for hundreds of children through Make-A-Wish, and every year it helps boost morale among our troops."

Those campaigning against Linda — including some former wrestlers — have been citing the WWE's lack of health care for stars, the large number of grapplers dying young and controversial storylines to attack her.

WWE declined to comment.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... -show.html

Whoops.

[Something Fishy]

Awesome news.. the best wrestling news in a long time.

[Return_of_the_STAR]

Just finished watching Wrestling with Shadows again and Bret Hart definitely took wrestling too seriously, almost believing that most of the storylines were real. He seemed way too affected by fans reactions and opinions. If he had been in John Cena's position for he past few year i think he would have had a mental breakdown. I haven't just made this assertion from watching the doc but from many of his interviews and his book.

However i was always a big Bret Hart fan as a kid and would love to see him back.

[Skippy]

I don't think it's possible to kick start 2010 any better.

(Well, apart from the shock return of Raw is War, maybe...)

The Rock returning would make it just

Bret hosting one week and Rock the next. Give them screen time together please

[Zellery]

Just finished watching Wrestling with Shadows again and Bret Hart definitely took wrestling too seriously, almost believing that most of the storylines were real. He seemed way too affected by fans reactions and opinions. If he had been in John Cena's position for he past few year i think he would have had a mental breakdown. I haven't just made this assertion from watching the doc but from many of his interviews and his book.

However i was always a big Bret Hart fan as a kid and would love to see him back.

Some of the things Vince did to him were extremely banana splitish, but you're right. He was way too serious about everything.

[Skippy]

When it comes to the Screwjob I can't justify hating anyone involved because of what it lead to, I don't blame any particular party either. Vince had to do what was best for his company, Shawn was just trying to do what his boss wanted, Bret should have dropped the title. Doesn't make what Vince did any less banana splitish but it's somewhat justified.

[Corazon de Leon]

When it comes to the Screwjob I can't justify hating anyone involved because of what it lead to, I don't blame any particular party either. Vince had to do what was best for his company, Shawn was just trying to do what his boss wanted, Bret should have dropped the title. Doesn't make what Vince did any less banana splitish but it's somewhat justified.

I vaguely remember Michaels freely admitting in his autobiography that he was happy to do it because he really didn't like Hart. Bad attitude, if it's true.

[Zellery]

When it comes to the Screwjob I can't justify hating anyone involved because of what it lead to, I don't blame any particular party either. Vince had to do what was best for his company, Shawn was just trying to do what his boss wanted, Bret should have dropped the title. Doesn't make what Vince did any less banana splitish but it's somewhat justified.

I vaguely remember Michaels freely admitting in his autobiography that he was happy to do it because he really didn't like Hart. Bad attitude, if it's true.

Wrestling with Shadows made Michaels look like a gutless wanker, with him saying to Bret's face that he had no idea it was going to go down like that.

[Corazon de Leon]

When it comes to the Screwjob I can't justify hating anyone involved because of what it lead to, I don't blame any particular party either. Vince had to do what was best for his company, Shawn was just trying to do what his boss wanted, Bret should have dropped the title. Doesn't make what Vince did any less banana splitish but it's somewhat justified.

I vaguely remember Michaels freely admitting in his autobiography that he was happy to do it because he really didn't like Hart. Bad attitude, if it's true.

Wrestling with Shadows made Michaels look like a gutless wanker, with him saying to Bret's face that he had no idea it was going to go down like that.

I've seen that DVD, but in fairness if he'd been ordered to keep his mouth shut by McMahon then he wouldn't have said anything for fear of his own job.

[Zellery]

When it comes to the Screwjob I can't justify hating anyone involved because of what it lead to, I don't blame any particular party either. Vince had to do what was best for his company, Shawn was just trying to do what his boss wanted, Bret should have dropped the title. Doesn't make what Vince did any less banana splitish but it's somewhat justified.

I vaguely remember Michaels freely admitting in his autobiography that he was happy to do it because he really didn't like Hart. Bad attitude, if it's true.

Wrestling with Shadows made Michaels look like a gutless wanker, with him saying to Bret's face that he had no idea it was going to go down like that.

I've seen that DVD, but in fairness if he'd been ordered to keep his mouth shut by McMahon then he wouldn't have said anything for fear of his own job.

I guess, but what if he hadn't been told to? We don't know do we.

[Corazon de Leon]

I do know that Triple H was in on it, and as he was in the doghouse anyway after the Kliq incident in 1996(I don't think he'd finished his punishment until 1998 regardless of his KOTR win) he could have said something and not been any worse off. I don't really care much nowadays - I don't know these people and I don't have an emotional stake in who was at fault and who screwed who etc.

[Cardinal Chunder]

Random question time. Why didn't Undertaker appear on the Owen Hart Raw tribute?

[Mockmaster]

Random question time. Why didn't Undertaker appear on the Owen Hart Raw tribute?

I think it is because they thought it would be in poor taste to have an Undertaker character appear on a show commemorating a dead wrestler. And he didn't appear as a normal person so as not to break his gimmick, which until that point he hadn't (I don't think).

[gaminglegend]

I do know that Triple H was in on it, and as he was in the doghouse anyway after the Kliq incident in 1996(I don't think he'd finished his punishment until 1998 regardless of his KOTR win) he could have said something and not been any worse off. I don't really care much nowadays - I don't know these people and I don't have an emotional stake in who was at fault and who screwed who etc.

The main problem with the screwjob is that Bret didn't want to lose the belt in canada and after much debate, Vince agreed, to Bret retaining the title at SS 1997. (Not forgetting the fact Bret had creative control in his contract)
Bret would then either hand it over on Raw or drop it in the next four weeks. The fact that he lied to Bret, and planned this all along is really the major point of the screw job in my eyes. (yes the fact it was planned beforehand..etc.. is a factor)



-In the end though Vince didn't need Bret, but Hart makes a good point about Vince not being able to afford him, yet the next year he brought in Tyson

[KK]

Random question time. Why didn't Undertaker appear on the Owen Hart Raw tribute?

I think it is because they thought it would be in poor taste to have an Undertaker character appear on a show commemorating a dead wrestler. And he didn't appear as a normal person so as not to break his gimmick, which until that point he hadn't (I don't think).

In 1998 they did a few times. When Kane & Paul Bearer dug up his parents he came out in street clothes, & the night after Over the Edge he cut a relatively straight-laced promo on Vince McMahon.

I've seen that DVD, but in fairness if he'd been ordered to keep his mouth shut by McMahon then he wouldn't have said anything for fear of his own job.

The WWF was practically finished in 1997. There was no way Vince was ever going to fire him, & Shawn knew it. Thus he continually got away with being a pain in the arse for so long.

[KK]

Now who saw this coming...

TNA are considering reuniting the New World Order. On Twitter, Kevin Nash teased "might see PAC Hogan Hall and Nash on tna together real soon". Nash recently had a talk with Scott Hall & said that he sounded great.

To think, we actually joked about this a few pages back.