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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by ITSMILNER » Sun Feb 04, 2024 4:28 pm

Thing is, they’ve been pushing the ‘first the story’ angle for months, even the WWE 2K24 game is using that as a tagline this year. All of that just to be dropped because The Rock wants to get involved :roll:

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by KK » Sun Feb 04, 2024 8:31 pm

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Vince McMahon's resignation from TKO not enough according to the Attorney representing Janel Grant. Speaking to News Nation on Friday, Callis said: “[Janel Grant] wants to speak out for any other victims and eradicate this culture of corruption that has permeated every cell of the WWE... My office and my inbox have had a barrage of people wanting to come forward to attest about this culture of corruption and also possible victims. We are just beginning now to wade through all this, but we’re frankly overwhelmed."

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by Johnny Ryall » Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:35 am

Couldn’t just have done The Rock at Elimination Chamber losing. Had to make Cody step back even though he’’s the bloody Royal Rumble winner.

I’m a big Rock fanboy, had his t shirt in 2000 and pop whenever he comes back but I very much doubt he can work a 30 minute modern WWE main event style without smoke and mirrors (usos/solo/hell bring back rikishi).

I read someone float the idea of Rock as the referee that would be a million times more palatable, whatever.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by HailToTheKingBaby! » Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:03 am

It'll never happen but if they really must do Rock Vs Roman, have Roman wrestle both nights. Face Cody on night one for the title and lose it then night two face the Rock for the position of "head of the table". Make that about family not the title in the build up. Then have Cody help Rock win to "take everything away from Roman" as he aluded to on Smackdown.

Then give Roman some time off and return as a face later down the line with Heyman maybe going over to CM Punk again after Roman ditches him.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by speedboatchase » Mon Feb 05, 2024 12:39 pm

Wrestlemania has always been more for the casual audience. Maybe it’s the one piece of WWE content they watch all years, myself included. Can’t imagine anything being done to change the marketability of a clean, easily understood ‘Rock v Roman’ match-up. Obviously it will be terrible, but the hype will have major pop culture crossover appeal.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by Jam-Master Jay » Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:06 pm

Apparently Ava Raine has been getting death threats because of this Rock bullshit. The IWC sure can be just as toxic as the WWE under Vince.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by Return_of_the_STAR » Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:29 pm

Funny how all the dirt sheets are now pivoting to this was all planned before the rumble and is part of an angle.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by KK » Mon Feb 05, 2024 9:44 pm

Jam-Master Jay wrote:Apparently Ava Raine has been getting death threats because of this Rock bullshit. The IWC sure can be just as toxic as the WWE under Vince.

More angry about this than the Vince McMahon allegations. :fp:

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Funny how all the dirt sheets are now pivoting to this was all planned before the rumble and is part of an angle.

Often appear to be no more in the know than those of us watching the bloody TV programmes every week.

I find it utterly preposterous that the head of Creative, Triple H, and the rest of the creative team would be unaware that The Rock vs Roman Reigns was the planned main event of WrestleMania by TKO.

On RAW tonight, they’ve got Cody Rhodes and Nakamura again, this time in a bullrope match, which itself feels like a bit of a last minute thrown together thing. Does Nakamura actually ever win a match these days?

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by KK » Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:33 am



Still no definitive answer as to what they're doing at WrestleMania last night, but I'm leaning towards either Roman Reigns wrestling back-to-back nights or Cody Rhodes vs. Roman Reigns - maybe with The Rock as special guest referee - as the main event of Elimination Chamber. WWE are choosing to embrace (and if the suspicious looking fan signs are any indication, embellish it), and I can't see The Rock suddenly turning 'Hollywood' (more's the pity).


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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by Miguel007 » Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:27 pm

If you get a chance go and see The Iron Claw, fantastic film. I think they get everything right bar the actor who plays Ric Flair [no one can imitate the Nature Boy, baby!].

Unreal the amount of tragedy one family suffered.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by kazanova_Frankenstein » Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:45 am

Miguel007 wrote:If you get a chance go and see The Iron Claw, fantastic film. I think they get everything right bar the actor who plays Ric Flair [no one can imitate the Nature Boy, baby!].

Unreal the amount of tragedy one family suffered.


I have tickets booked this Friday!

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by KK » Wed Feb 07, 2024 8:23 pm

John Laurinaitis, via his lawyer, have confirmed that he and WWE were aware of Ashley Massaro’s rape allegations (despite publicly issuing a statement that they weren’t):

Despite Denials, WWE Management Knew Wrestler Said She Had Been Raped on Military Base

The late wrestler Ashley Massaro said WWE management was aware of and covered up her claim to have been raped in Kuwait; WWE denied it. Now a former top executive says he knew.

Vince McMahon stands accused of covering up the alleged rape of a WWE wrestler—who later died by apparent suicide—at a military base in Kuwait and of sexually harassing her, according to legal documents and people who knew her. John Laurinaitis, a former WWE executive and McMahon’s co-defendant in an explosive civil sex trafficking lawsuit, is also implicated; his lawyer objected to the use of the term “cover-up,” but confirmed that Laurinaitis knew about the allegations and said “most upper level management” was, contradicting WWE’s claim that executives were never made aware of them.

In a sworn affidavit her lawyer released in 2019, after her death, former wrestler Ashley Massaro said that she was injected with a paralyzing drug and raped by someone representing himself as a U.S. Army doctor while on tour with WWE in Kuwait in 2006. Massaro also said that top executives at the company, including McMahon and Laurinaitis, told her not to talk about the incident and agreed to not talk about it themselves, in part to preserve the company’s relationship with the military.

“He told me not to let one bad experience ruin the good work they were doing,” Massaro said of McMahon in the affidavit.

VICE News can report for the first time that the Naval Criminal Intelligence Service opened an investigation into Massaro's allegations in June 2019. That investigation was closed in January 2020, according to an NCIS spokesperson. Further information, they said, could not be immediately released, as it would need to be obtained under the Freedom of Information Act.

In the years since the affidavit was released, new information had come to light to corroborate some of Massaro’s claims and cast doubt on WWE’s subsequent denial even before the statement from Laurinaitis’ lawyer. Paul London, a former WWE wrestler who dated Massaro when they were both with the company, has also since said that Massaro was herself a victim of McMahon’s sexual misconduct. The allegations appear in a new light following the filing of a civil lawsuit accusing McMahon and Laurinaitis of raping a WWE employee and McMahon of covering it up by strong-arming her into signing a non-disclosure agreement. (Both have denied the allegations.)

“I’m not surprised by any of it,” London said of the recent claims against McMahon on a podcast released last week. He compared WWE to NXVIM, the cult led by now-convicted sex trafficker Keith Raniere.

“Any allegations that Mr. Laurinaitus helped to cover up an alleged rape allegation is an outright lie,” wrote Laurinaitis’ lawyer, Edward Brennan, in response to questions about Massaro’s allegations. “Johnny, like most upper level management at sometime became aware of the allegations and ensured all proper WWE protocols were followed, including privacy for the alleged victim. We object to the use of the term cover up as no such plan or plot ever took place to hide or assist in the alleged rape.”

A spokesperson for TKO, WWE’s parent company, declined to comment, and a lawyer said to represent McMahon did not respond to requests for comment. Neither McMahon nor Laurinaitis is now associated with WWE, with McMahon resigning as chairman of TKO the day after the sex trafficking suit was filed.

Massaro’s road to WWE stardom was far from traditional—and, she said in her affidavit, rife with mistreatment from the start. In 2005, she was cast in the Diva Search, a reality competition of sorts that aired as part of the company's flagship Raw program. As the winner, Massaro received a WWE contract and—despite being, she would later say, completely untrained—immediately joined Raw as a wrestler. (While wrestling has predetermined outcomes, working with another wrestler to safely execute even basic maneuvers requires intense training.) Over the next three years, she performed as a wrestler and valet—a woman who accompanies a male wrestler to the ring—and represented the WWE brand as a Survivor contestant and Playboy model before being released in 2008.

In 2016, Massaro joined a lawsuit brought by a number of former wrestlers against McMahon and WWE, seeking damages related to the effects of traumatic brain injuries they said they suffered while wrestling. According to a filing in that suit, Massaro said that she had been sexually assaulted in Kuwait and that Ferdinand Rios, a WWE doctor, had reported the incident to “WWE executives who soon thereafter met with Massaro to apologize for their negligence but persuaded her that it would be best not to report it to appropriate authorities.”

In a filing the next month, WWE called the claim a “stale and baseless allegation” and denied Massaro had ever reported a sexual assault to anyone affiliated with WWE, saying she had been heard telling others that the doctor “had done an inappropriate pelvic exam.” (As headlines at the time about doctor Larry Nassar molesting hundreds of girls and women under the guise of medical treatment would have made clear, this can itself be a form of sexual assault.)

A judge dismissed the case in 2018, after which plaintiffs’ lawyer Konstantine Kyros, whom the judge had sanctioned and ordered to pay WWE’s fees, filed the first in an ongoing series of appeals. Asked for comment, Kyros provided a link showing he has petitioned the Supreme Court to hear an appeal—it has previously declined to do so—and noted that Massaro’s affidavit was made under oath to a federal judge.

The matter sat there until May 2019, when Massaro died; while authorities declined to publicly state the cause of death, it was reported—and her survivors have not disputed—that it was by suicide. Subsequently, Kyros published in full the sworn affidavit Massaro had signed in November 2017, in which she detailed the allegations about her rape and WWE’s response.

In the affidavit, Massaro describes events that she says took place on a 2006 WWE tour—the year is incorrectly given as 2007 in the document—of U.S. military facilities in Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait on which she and several other performers and staffers took part. (None could be reached for comment.) Suffering from dehydration, the statement says, she was taken to a military base, where she was given an IV and left alone. After a couple of hours, a man representing himself as an Army doctor and a woman in fatigues, she said, appeared, administered another IV, and took her to another room.

(Massaro, according to a source with knowledge, was taken to Ali Al Salem Air Base in Kuwait, where the clinic would have been staffed by Navy, rather than Army, personnel. This would explain why NCIS handled the case even though Massaro said the rapist purported to be an Army doctor.)

“The woman guarded the door,” the statement says, “while the man proceeded to inject me with a drug that caused me to be unable to move my body or to scream. The man then proceeded to violently rape and sodomize me. I was completely helpless to defend myself against this attack as the drug he injected rendered me temporarily paralyzed. Despite being unable to control my movements, I remained fully conscious for every second of the attack.”

Eventually, the statement says, a WWE staffer began banging on the door; the man and woman covered her with a quilt and left the room, and the staffer carried her away and brought her back to her hotel room. The sequence of events given in the statement, including Massaro falling ill, going for medical attention, and then being brought back to the hotel, is broadly consistent with the one described in a 2006 blog post published on WWE’s website by Jimmy Hart, one of the performers on the tour.

Massaro, the statement says, was not in position to have a rape kit taken, and did not report the incident to authorities; she told fellow performers about what had happened, but told them not to report it to anyone. After she returned to the U.S., though, Ferdinand Rios, the WWE doctor, questioned her about the incident. She agreed to tell him what had happened as long as he didn’t tell anyone else; subsequently, though, the statement says, he informed McMahon, and she was summoned to a meeting with McMahon, Laurinaitis, WWE production chief Kevin Dunn, and other men she didn’t recognize but believed to be company executives or lawyers.

(Dunn, who left WWE last month after more than 40 years of serving as one of McMahon’s loyal right-hand men, could not be reached for comment. A spokesperson for TKO did not provide contact information for a representative for Dunn when asked.)

“Vince,” the statement reads, “led the meeting with these men and asked me to recount what happened in Kuwait. Then he said it was not in the best interest of the WWE for me to make the information about my attack public. I was still completely traumatized at that point and I just agreed. It was clear that there had already been a conversation and that they had reached a decision on their own prior to consulting with me as this was not a debate but rather Vince instructing me to keep this confidential.

“Vince did at least apologize for what I went through, but then stressed that if I disclosed this incident it would ruin the relationship between the WWE and the US Military. He told me not to let one bad experience ruin the good work they were doing.”

In a statement issued after the publication of the affidavit, WWE denied its claims.

“At no time was Vince McMahon or the management of WWE ever informed by Ashley Massaro or anybody else that she had been sexually assaulted, drugged, raped or sodomized by a military doctor with a nurse standing guard while on a goodwill tour in 2007 to U.S. military bases in Kuwait,” read the statement.

“At no time was there ever a meeting with Vince McMahon, Kevin Dunn, John Laurinaitis or other company executives in which she told them of such a claim and was instructed to keep it quiet."

According to what Laurinaitis says—which is corroborated by an interview given last fall by Rios, the doctor—that statement was not true. A TKO spokesperson declined to comment on whether WWE stands by its denial.

A paradox of pro wrestling is that for all the secrecy surrounding its inner workings, there is a remarkable amount of media in which insiders freely discuss them, an entire ecosystem of podcasts and streams where current and former performers discuss how things actually work, what people are really like behind the scenes, and what they saw during their careers. As part of that ecosystem, Massaro’s story has been kept alive in the years since her death by wrestling fans and media, and also by people who knew her.

On one of these podcasts, Cafe de Rene, hosted by former WWE wrestler Rene Dupree, Paul London discussed Massaro last year. London and Massaro were linked together both off- and on-screen in her time with WWE, as the two dated and she also served as his valet. At the time the podcast was recorded, McMahon had recently returned to WWE after resigning in the wake of Wall Street Journal reporting about secret non-disclosure agreements he’d signed and allegations of sexual misconduct and abuse against him.

“I do remember specifically many times when she would be crying to me because Vince was propositioning her to fly on the jet with them,” he said. “Kevin Dunn, Bucktooth Bucky, would be telling her that she has to fly on the jet with them, or every now and then, she was at the—they would always put the divas up at the tv hotel or whatever, [McMahon] would be knocking on her door and trying to get her to answer. I’m shocked this Vince stuff is just now coming out.”

London described WWE as “an onion of destitution” in another interview on the same podcast just over a week ago. “It’s a really disgusting onion full of just layers and layers and layers. As you say, what’s known in the wrestling business is, believe none of what you hear and half of what you see, so there’s always that weighing on one thing. But of course I’m going to believe my girlfriend at the time, especially when I can see her physically shaken and disturbed.

“She was a good actress, but she wasn’t that good an actress.”

A representative for London did not respond to an email; a TKO spokesperson specifically declined to comment on London’s implication that McMahon had harassed or coerced Massaro. (Kyros, Massaro’s lawyer, suggested that her career ended at least in part because she rejected McMahon’s advances on the Banfield Podcast this week.)

Last September, Audible released a podcast called Ashley vs WWE, in which people who knew Massaro offered new corroboration of claims made in the affidavit. Some of this was less specific, such as her cousin saying she’d intimated that someone had attempted to rape her, her best friend saying Massaro had told her that a doctor did something to her and that it was swept under the rug, and an unnamed source saying Massaro had told them that she’d been sexually assaulted and urged by WWE to keep it quiet.

More specific new information reported by the podcast, though, contradicts WWE’s past denials. Reporter Isobel Thompson talked to London, who described Massaro feeling trapped, frightened, and preyed upon when McMahon and Dunn would pressure her to fly on the company jet or when McMahon would come knocking on her hotel door at night. He said that she had told him she was raped after returning from Kuwait, and that she had met with WWE executives who told her not to say anything about it.

Thompson also reached Ferdinand Rios, the WWE doctor whom Massaro told about the rape and whom she said reported it to McMahon, according to the affidavit.

Rios, who did not return a message left with his office, confirmed to Thompson that while the details are a bit unclear in his memory due to the passage of time, he does remember that Massaro told him about the rape after returning to the U.S. from Kuwait. “I spoke with her and she told me a little bit about it,” he said. He further said that it was fairly widely known within WWE at the time. “Those that went would tell those that didn’t go that this happened,” he said.

While he said he does believe Massaro’s story, his recollection differs from what’s recounted in the affidavit in one key particular. While she stated that he told McMahon about the incident, he remembers that it was common knowledge and a subject of gossip, and that he approached Laurinaitis about it—only to find he was already aware.

“He already knew and no one wanted to give me any further details about it,” said Rios. “I had nothing to do with it, they said. So, it was just sort of a shock. You know when you’re restricted from saying anything else.”

(“At some point Johnny heard about the allegations in general, i.e. that Ms. Massaro claimed she had been assaulted in Kuwait,” wrote Brennan, Laurinaitis’ lawyer, in an email. “As to when McMahon found about the allegations, Johnny has no idea as to when or whether.”)

“She was extremely special,” London said of Massaro, speaking of her to Thompson. “I felt extremely fortunate to be in her life and to have her in my life.

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TNA Wrestling have also fired Scott D’Amore. You’d expect there to be more to it than is currently known: https://tnawrestling.com/2024/02/07/ant ... wrestling/

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by Johnny Ryall » Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:45 pm

It sounds like, for the moment at least, it's Anthem being monumentally dumb rather than a scandal:

https://cultaholic.com/posts/backstage-news-on-tna-firing-scott-d-amore

In a sudden announcement today, Scott D'Amore has been fired by TNA Wrestling.

Anthem Sports & Entertainment, the parent company of TNA, have announced that Anthony Cicione will replace D'Amore as the President of TNA Wrestling. The parent company stated the change was done "to further integrate TNA Wrestling into Anthem's Entertainment Group, of which Cicione is the President, leveraging the entire Company's resources to add more value in areas including production, distribution, marketing, viewership, customer acquisition, digital revenue streams, ad sales and sponsorships, digital tech operations, and more."

Cicione is now also in charge of the day-to-day business operations of TNA. He has been with Anthem for the past 16 years.

His firing today ends Scott D'Amore's second stint with TNA. He returned to the promotion in 2017, being brought back by Jeff Jarrett as Vice President of International Relations after working in the same role for Global Force Wrestling from 2014. D'Amore and Don Callis were then appointed Executive Vice Presidents of the then IMPACT Wrestling, with D'Amore later being appointed President of IMPACT Wrestling in March 2023.

The change in leadership came only weeks after IMPACT Wrestling officially rebranded as TNA Wrestling, a move which gave the promotion the most momentum they have had in years, including what was described as a "fantastic" pay-per-view buyrate for Hard To Kill.

PWInsider reported that one possible reason for the change being discussed amongst TNA talents was that "Anthem wanted the TNA brand to be more in-line with the parent company going forward and that the brand had been too D'Amore-centric with Scott as the face of the company." The decision was said to have come directly from Anthem owner Len Asper.

TNA held a meeting with talents today to address D'Amore's firing and the meeting doesn't appear to have gone down well after it was stated that D'Amore had "stepped down" from TNA, which isn't the case. This didn't sit well with some of the talent, with one wrestler telling PWInsider: "This wasn't the way to start off."

New TNA President Anthony Cicione read a "prepared statement" which also went down badly with some, while others noted he was in a no-win situation. Talents were also not given the opportunity to ask questions which didn't help endear wrestlers to the changes.

At the beginning of the call, some talents were extremely angry while some of the locker room veterans tried to calm the waters. Anthem have a "lot of work to do" moving forward, though, according to one personality within the promotion.

Others have taken more of a positive approach, noting they are trying to keep the faith as the remainder of the team behind TNA Wrestling is still in place beyond D'Amore.


If it's because they aren't happy at Scott having so much unilateral power that's dumb, as he's led them to the most critical and commercial success they have seen in some time. If that's a fake reason given to brush some sort of sex scandal under the carpet that's even worse. Either way TNA gonna TNA.

I read somewhere else Scott was the guy that arranged for the working agreements between TNA and WWE (Jordynne Grace and Mickie James in the Rumble), which would make sense with the likes of Abyss and Jeremy Borash having high ranking backstage roles. If he ends up in WWE we'll have our answer I suppose.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by Reavus » Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:11 pm

twitter.com/tdgarden/status/1755428524586909861


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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by KK » Thu Feb 08, 2024 5:41 pm

Sounds like Boss Time is coming to AEW after all. Wonder who her first opponent is going to be.

Same strategy (though even more overt) they used with Punk’s arrival.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by Return_of_the_STAR » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:00 pm

twitter.com/wrestletalk_tv/status/1755665475432813019



twitter.com/wrestletalk_tv/status/1755662980593688776



The great one has returned.

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by Return_of_the_STAR » Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:22 pm

twitter.com/TheRock/status/1755684348349775999



He's going all in!

Although if WWE aren't careful this could end up in an accidental Roman Reigns face turn :lol:

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by captain red dog » Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:42 pm

Return_of_the_STAR wrote:

twitter.com/wrestletalk_tv/status/1755665475432813019



twitter.com/wrestletalk_tv/status/1755662980593688776



The great one has returned.

Jeez, I started being a Rock fan at Survivor Series 98 when he turned heel and became the corporate champ. That 20 seconds in that interview was the best he has been in years! That character was better than Hollywood Rock!

Such a shame he can't do a final part time run, he'd be the biggest heel in the business!

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by KK » Thu Feb 08, 2024 8:48 pm

Press Conference is 12am I think for us, on YouTube. Intrigued to see what they’ve come up with.

There’s also presumably a men’s chamber match that currently has no reason for happening. Could do US Title, but RAW kinda indicated maybe something involving Drew McIntyre, Shinsuke Nakamura, Sami Zayn…

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PostRe: The Wrestling Thread: Vince McMahon quits WWE in wake of sex trafficking allegations
by Return_of_the_STAR » Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:38 pm

KK wrote:Press Conference is 12am I think for us, on YouTube. Intrigued to see what they’ve come up with.

There’s also presumably a men’s chamber match that currently has no reason for happening. Could do US Title, but RAW kinda indicated maybe something involving Drew McIntyre, Shinsuke Nakamura, Sami Zayn…


Winner gets a title shot at the next Saudi show? Or something similar. A bit lazy though.

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