The Last Of Us Remastered (PS4). Get your selfie sticks out!

jawafour » Fri May 09, 2014 7:31 am wrote:As for the DLC, I'm wary of the wording "include a number of"; this sounds like not everything will be included.

I think it's pretty much a guarantee of that.

I'll wait for the inevitable PS4 GotY edition, then wait for that to go sub-£20, before I double dip.

jawafour » Fri May 09, 2014 7:31 am wrote:CVG has a short news story about the game and a couple of lines are rather interesting:

Druckmann (the creative director) said The Last of Us Remastered is a straightforward port at the moment, but he is considering taking advantage of PS4's improved triggers and touchpad.

Remastered will also include a number of The Last of Us DLC packs featured in the game's season pass, including the Left Behind single-player add-on.

I'd thought that the conversion to the PS4 had been in progress since the PS3 version launched - it seems odd if the capabilities of the PS4 controller have only been considered at this late stage. As for the DLC, I'm wary of the wording "include a number of"; this sounds like not everything will be included.

I guess these aren't huge drawbacks but it certainly creates a few questions. I know that folk will call out that we're still getting one of the best games of last year with a bit of extra polish, but I'm a bit cautious about dropping forty-to-fifty quid on this.

It's been known for some time that the Remastered version will include:
- Left Behind
- Abandoned Territories map pack
- Reclaimed Territories map pack

The rest will be DLC...Grounded mode, abilities, weapons, clothing etc...

Or we get brand new DLCs for the PS4 version.

As good as the game was....the price is shocking for a re-release with slightly better graphics, will be waiting for it to drop to around £30 before I even consider purchasing it

I don't get why people complain about game prices, half the games I buy are pre owned.

NickSCFC » Sat May 10, 2014 2:27 pm wrote:I don't get why people complain about game prices, half the games I buy are pre owned.

I'm complaining that a re-release costs more than some new games....£50 on amazon for something we've seen before, Sony and Microsoft are nothing but conmen. I also buy a lot of pre owned games but they still cost around £40 on PS4. PC has the right idea, steam sales all the way!

NickSCFC » Sat May 10, 2014 9:27 pm wrote:I don't get why people complain about game prices, half the games I buy are pre owned.

Got a PS4 yet?

Anyway, 35 squid from Zavvi. Totally happy with that price considering it comes with the DLC which I never got to play.

NickSCFC » Sat May 10, 2014 9:27 pm wrote:I don't get why people complain about game prices, half the games I buy are pre owned.

Not everyone buys pre-owned games and people shouldn't be forced to buy pre-owned in order to avoid ludicrous prices.

KjGarly » Sat May 10, 2014 3:52 pm wrote:

NickSCFC » Sat May 10, 2014 9:27 pm wrote:I don't get why people complain about game prices, half the games I buy are pre owned.

Got a PS4 yet?

Anyway, 35 squid from Zavvi. Totally happy with that price considering it comes with the DLC which I never got to play.

Just checked out zavvi, its a £10 cheaper than amazon, tempted to preorder it now

Don't forget with the Remastered version you're also getting £28 worth of DLC content, or £16 if you consider the Season Pass. Basically the game is cheaper on PS4.

Unless you bought it on the PS3 at Christmas.

Dark Dragon 64 wrote:Unless you bought it on the PS3 at Christmas.

Bit of a facetious counter-point really.
Fact is, one of the best games ever done up to the nines, all the DLC lashed in there, and povvos crying over it being nearly full price. I mean come on now.

This game is being remastered only a year after its release which, in my opinion, is an insult to those who bought it prior to the announcement of the PS4 version. This whole re-release stinks of nothing more than a scheme to make even more money from literally the same game and exploit the accolades that this game has received. An argument may be made that this remake is being released for the PS4 owners who never had a PS3, but I would wager that such people are outnumbered by those who already played the game on the PS3.

I was strongly considering buying the base game and season pass at Christmas but decided against it as I knew that I wouldn't start it before it went on sale again. If I had bought it, I would have been extremely annoyed to hear that a remastered version is being released, only a year after the games initial release.

The quality of the game is irrelevant because no game deserves to be remade and resold only a year after its initial release.

It always inevitable I thought this would end up on PS4. Supposing you'd be paying £25 for a PS3 pre owned or new one. Then add in the DLC prices. £40 for this ain't bad.

Dark Dragon 64 wrote:This game is being remastered only a year after its release which, in my opinion, is an insult to those who bought it prior to the announcement of the PS4 version. This whole re-release stinks of nothing more than a scheme to make even more money from literally the same game and exploit the accolades that this game has received. An argument may be made that this remake is being released for the PS4 owners who never had a PS3, but I would wager that such people are outnumbered by those who already played the game on the PS3.

I was strongly considering buying the base game and season pass at Christmas but decided against it as I knew that I wouldn't start it before it went on sale again. If I had bought it, I would have been extremely annoyed to hear that a remastered version is being released, only a year after the games initial release.

The quality of the game is irrelevant because no game deserves to be remade and resold only a year after its initial release.

You don't have to buy it do you?

If you or anyone else thinks it's too expensive, then wait. Jesus strawberry floating christ

Dark Dragon 64 » Sun May 11, 2014 5:16 pm wrote:This game is being remastered only a year after its release which, in my opinion, is an insult to those who bought it prior to the announcement of the PS4 version. This whole re-release stinks of nothing more than a scheme to make even more money from literally the same game and exploit the accolades that this game has received. An argument may be made that this remake is being released for the PS4 owners who never had a PS3, but I would wager that such people are outnumbered by those who already played the game on the PS3.

I was strongly considering buying the base game and season pass at Christmas but decided against it as I knew that I wouldn't start it before it went on sale again. If I had bought it, I would have been extremely annoyed to hear that a remastered version is being released, only a year after the games initial release.

The quality of the game is irrelevant because no game deserves to be remade and resold only a year after its initial release.

What the devil are you talking about?!I bought the original and I'm, not for one moment, insulted it's getting a PS4 release. I want this game on PS4. I would assume other gamers feel the same, not all mind.

It's not being remade but you keep using that term. If this was being remade it would't be releasing this year. Way more work involved.

Where have you been for the whole last-generation? Remaster editions have been making an appearance for some time already and an investment in to this remastered game doesn't diminish the value any more or less than any other game that's been remastered for PS3. It's the same process.

Also, you'll actually be saving money since you didn't buy the original game (and associated DLC that's part of the Remastered edition).

Finally why shouldn't a game, considered as one of the best, not live on for those who want it on PS4? Multiplayer is still a massive draw and it'll be a haunt for a lot of the community on PS4 (especially with the new pad - although that's a mute point for me personally)?

This will do well on PS4. That's enough for Sony to warrant it.

Companies re-release the same games all the time. I've bought Super Mario World on about 3 different consoles.

If people don't want to buy it they don't. It will drop in price after a while and you can grab it cheap.

DD 64 - really don't understand your view. If you think it is overpriced, simply don't buy it. I never got around to buying it on the PS3 so I'm really pleased it's getting a PS4 release.

Yeah, I'm not sure it's an 'insult' to anybody.

It's a 40 quid piece of software and many, many people enjoyed it on PS3. You need to be going out of your way to take offence at this.

Fuzzy Dunlop » Sun May 11, 2014 6:46 pm wrote:

Dark Dragon 64 wrote:This game is being remastered only a year after its release which, in my opinion, is an insult to those who bought it prior to the announcement of the PS4 version. This whole re-release stinks of nothing more than a scheme to make even more money from literally the same game and exploit the accolades that this game has received. An argument may be made that this remake is being released for the PS4 owners who never had a PS3, but I would wager that such people are outnumbered by those who already played the game on the PS3.

I was strongly considering buying the base game and season pass at Christmas but decided against it as I knew that I wouldn't start it before it went on sale again. If I had bought it, I would have been extremely annoyed to hear that a remastered version is being released, only a year after the games initial release.

The quality of the game is irrelevant because no game deserves to be remade and resold only a year after its initial release.

You don't have to buy it do you?

If you or anyone else thinks it's too expensive, then wait. Jesus strawberry floating christ

I'm focusing on the practice of re-releasing a game, at full price, only a year after its initial release with improved graphics. I had the same view to Tomb Raider and the purported PS4 version of Gran Turismo 6. I can wait for the price to go down, but I shouldn't have to.

cooldawn » Sun May 11, 2014 6:53 pm wrote:What the devil are you talking about?!I bought the original and I'm, not for one moment, insulted it's getting a PS4 release. I want this game on PS4. I would assume other gamers feel the same, not all mind.

My opinion is that it's offensive to re-release a game, at full price, only a year after its original release. I know that you, and others, have a different opinion but I'm here to express mine. I find it insulting that a games company would think that its consumers would be happy to rebuy a game, at full price, only a year after buying the original game, just because the new game has better graphics. I also find it disappointing that so many consumers are happy to buy this; I had the same disappointment when the 'definitive edition' of Tomb Raider was released.

cooldawn » Sun May 11, 2014 6:53 pm wrote:It's not being remade but you keep using that term. If this was being remade it would't be releasing this year. Way more work involved.

The terms 'remake' and 'remaster' have, often, been used interchangeably when referring to this kind of update in a game. It doesn't affect my point but, if you like, replace all the instances of 'remake' with 'remaster'. My point still stands.

cooldawn » Sun May 11, 2014 6:53 pm wrote:Where have you been for the whole last-generation? Remaster editions have been making an appearance for some time already and an investment in to this remastered game doesn't diminish the value any more or less than any other game that's been remastered for PS3. It's the same process.

Those remastered/HD editions weren't released only a year after the original release of the game. Secondly, most of those were released as bundles and at budget prices. Any argument that The Last of Us deserves a higher price because it's only a year old is moot because my whole point is that the game shouldn't be re-released after only a year. The fact that the game is only a year old means that it is still widely available for purchase in a new condition, unlike the other remastered titles.

cooldawn » Sun May 11, 2014 6:53 pm wrote:Also, you'll actually be saving money since you didn't buy the original game (and associated DLC that's part of the Remastered edition).

If you're looking at my own situation, you're wrong. I would have bought the game, with the season pass, at Christmas for £27 if I knew that I would play it immediately. As a result, I'll only ever buy it for less than £27 because I'm waiting even longer. The fact that the game has a digital version means that scarcity won't drive up the price and so I can reasonably expect a lower price.

Nonetheless, my qualm is with the practice of re-releasing a game, at full price, only a year after its initial launch, not the price that I ultimately pay.

cooldawn » Sun May 11, 2014 6:53 pm wrote:Finally why shouldn't a game, considered as one of the best, not live on for those who want it on PS4? Multiplayer is still a massive draw and it'll be a haunt for a lot of the community on PS4 (especially with the new pad - although that's a mute point for me personally)?

It's not just living on as a PS4 title, it's splitting the user base. Left 4 Dead 2 was surrounded by controversy as it came only a year after the original and threatened to split the, still vibrant, online user base.

With regards to the single-player element, I'll wager dollars to doughnuts that most people will be re-buying the title and will not be playing it for the first time on the PS4.

cooldawn » Sun May 11, 2014 6:53 pm wrote:This will do well on PS4. That's enough for Sony to warrant it.

This actually reinforces my point. Sony knows that the game was critically acclaimed and is using this fact to earn more money. A number of people are justifying rebuying the same game, dressed up in prettier graphics, with the reason that 'it's one of the greatest games of all time'. This, with the drought of games on the PS4, appears to be clouding the fact that this re-release shouldn't be a full priced title.

Minto » Sun May 11, 2014 6:56 pm wrote:Companies re-release the same games all the time. I've bought Super Mario World on about 3 different consoles.

If people don't want to buy it they don't. It will drop in price after a while and you can grab it cheap.

I'm sure that none of those versions of Super Mario World came out only a year after the Super Nintendo Entertainment System version.

People have the choice to wait but it's apparent that most people will not wait. Tomb Raider showed this and the reactions to the PS4 version of The Last of Us shows a similarly, worrying, reception.

Death's Head » Sun May 11, 2014 7:01 pm wrote:DD 64 - really don't understand your view. If you think it is overpriced, simply don't buy it. I never got around to buying it on the PS3 so I'm really pleased it's getting a PS4 release.

I won't buy it, but I should still be entitled to express my disdain at such a practice. I thought that it was bad enough when Tomb Raider was released, but it seems that this practice has the potential to continue unchecked.

I accept that some people won't have bought the original but I still believe that most people who buy the PS4 version will have owned, or at least played, the original at some point.

Poser » Sun May 11, 2014 7:08 pm wrote:Yeah, I'm not sure it's an 'insult' to anybody.

It's a 40 quid piece of software and many, many people enjoyed it on PS3. You need to be going out of your way to take offence at this.

It's literally a case of taking a product, improving its appearance, and selling it as if it were a completely new game. As a gamer and a consumer, I find it insulting that a games company thinks that its consumers are so starved of games, or so blinded by their appreciation of a specific game, that they will rebuy the same title as long as it has been improved in some way, even if this is only a year after the first version was released.