The Football Thread 2023/24: And so we enter... end game.

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with Tomous and Imrahil's help ive worked it out

volley - ball is in the air when kicked, regardless of bounces or extra touches
full volley - ball has not hit ground before the player kicks it
half volley - ball has hit ground before being kicked while in the air
1/3rd volley - player juggles it in air before volleying it

[Albert]

I always thought it was generally considered a half-volley if the ball was on the up after bouncing, while a volley is when the ball is falling?

i get that but question

the ball is kicked very high in the air, it bounces high again, and on the way down after the bounce it is kicked in the goal.
is that a full volley?

No, it's a half volley as the ball has bounced. This rule is so engrained into anyone that has played footie in the park with mates. The rules of Full/half volley dictated during these periods is what stands today and I don't care what any official body comes up with;.

[Dowbocop]

It's not a volley if a woman on the telly says it is one.

I shudder to think at the strawberry floating dogshit games of Headers and Volleys some of these people played back in the day. May as well have given the goalie a tennis racket

As Ob says, if the last thing the ball touched before you touch it was the floor then it's not a full volley. Half volley is one bounce. Anything else is just kicking the ball. I've never heard of "third volleys" for teeing it up, but that seems fair enough as a term - you're controlling how you receive the ball for the volley attempt so in theory it should be easier than a half volley. I'd probably still just call it a teed up half volley though.

[poshrule_uk]

I always thought it was generally considered a half-volley if the ball was on the up after bouncing, while a volley is when the ball is falling?

i get that but question

the ball is kicked very high in the air, it bounces high again, and on the way down after the bounce it is kicked in the goal.
is that a full volley?

It's a half volley all day long

[finish.last]

I always understood a ‘half-volley’ to be when you kick the ball almost immediately after it has bounced on the ground.

[Imrahil]

I always thought it was generally considered a half-volley if the ball was on the up after bouncing, while a volley is when the ball is falling?

i get that but question

the ball is kicked very high in the air, it bounces high again, and on the way down after the bounce it is kicked in the goal.
is that a full volley?

It's a half volley all day long

I would maybe treat goals like this as the exception though. This to me is a full volley (even though the video calls it a half volley) since it's been in the air a while and is falling down:



Also, Shearer.

[jawa_]

IMHO...

> A half-volley is when you kick the ball after it has come down from the air, touched the ground and bounced up again
> A volley is when you kick the ball whist it is in the air and before it has touched the ground

[Albert]

I always thought it was generally considered a half-volley if the ball was on the up after bouncing, while a volley is when the ball is falling?

i get that but question

the ball is kicked very high in the air, it bounces high again, and on the way down after the bounce it is kicked in the goal.
is that a full volley?

It's a half volley all day long

I would maybe treat goals like this as the exception though. This to me is a full volley (even though the video calls it a half volley) since it's been in the air a while and is falling down:



Also, Shearer.

Great goal, but you are wrong. That's an amazing half volley.

[Cuttooth]

That video should put it to bed really. Half volley all day long.

[Moggy]

Also, if you do a bicycle kick just after the ball has hit the ground, it's called a unicycle.

[Return_of_the_STAR]

Oops

[Shadow]

Ofgs he's not signing for City is he?

[Moggy]

Ofgs he's not signing for City is he?

Nah, he'd go to Wealdstone

[Oblomov Boblomov]

I'm so glad the majority of GRcaders are sensible people who know the rules around volleys and half volleys .

Tomous... I've not much else to say other than you should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

[Tomous]

I've heard that before.

[Imrahil]

Fortunately, I'm glad there's at least some of us who understand the definition isn't something which is set in stone. It's forever been debatable and probably always will be.

I'm with Shearer and Lineker on this one. Hitting the ball the second it pings up off the grass is colloquially a 'half volley', while if it's floating in the air, falling down, is a volley. Because it's the exact same technique regardless of how the ball got there. Whereas it's a unique technique judging how to strike a ball just as it's leaving the ground.

[Oblomov Boblomov]

Fortunately, I'm glad there's at least some of us who understand the definition isn't something which is set in stone. It's forever been debatable and probably always will be.

I'm with Shearer and Lineker on this one. Hitting the ball the second it pings up off the grass is colloquially a 'half volley', while if it's floating in the air, falling down, is a volley. Because it's the exact same technique regardless of how the ball got there. Whereas it's a unique technique judging how to strike a ball just as it's leaving the ground.

There's room in the corner of shame for you .

Tomous, shuffle up a bit!

[Tomous]

Fortunately, I'm glad there's at least some of us who understand the definition isn't something which is set in stone. It's forever been debatable and probably always will be.

I'm with Shearer and Lineker on this one. Hitting the ball the second it pings up off the grass is colloquially a 'half volley', while if it's floating in the air, falling down, is a volley. Because it's the exact same technique regardless of how the ball got there. Whereas it's a unique technique judging how to strike a ball just as it's leaving the ground.

Yep, this is exactly my logic.

[Moggy]

Fortunately, I'm glad there's at least some of us who understand the definition isn't something which is set in stone. It's forever been debatable and probably always will be.

I'm with Shearer and Lineker on this one. Hitting the ball the second it pings up off the grass is colloquially a 'half volley', while if it's floating in the air, falling down, is a volley. Because it's the exact same technique regardless of how the ball got there. Whereas it's a unique technique judging how to strike a ball just as it's leaving the ground.

If a striker sprints ahead of the last defender, stops the ball on the penalty spot and blasts it in, would you call it a penalty, because it's the same technique?

[Imrahil]

Fortunately, I'm glad there's at least some of us who understand the definition isn't something which is set in stone. It's forever been debatable and probably always will be.

I'm with Shearer and Lineker on this one. Hitting the ball the second it pings up off the grass is colloquially a 'half volley', while if it's floating in the air, falling down, is a volley. Because it's the exact same technique regardless of how the ball got there. Whereas it's a unique technique judging how to strike a ball just as it's leaving the ground.

If a striker sprints ahead of the last defender, stops the ball on the penalty spot and blasts it in, would you call it a penalty, because it's the same technique?

What on earth are you talking about?

That's not even remotely the same thing.