Squinty wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/brexit-uk-gdp-economy-drop-mark-carney-bank-of-england-40-billion-pounds-a8363106.html%3famp
The economic argument for brexit has been long lost by the leave side, but damn.
Real household incomes are about £900 per household lower than we forecast in May of 2016
Garth wrote:
It is a worrying estimate. I know that Mark Carney is doing his best, and to be as exact as he possibly can. But this does demonstrate that this is an estimate based upon Tory negotiations. If we were doing these negotiations now we would be doing everything we could to protect the economy and protect jobs.
Hexx wrote:It's not the fault of Brexit - but the wrong sort of Brexit says John McDonnellIt is a worrying estimate. I know that Mark Carney is doing his best, and to be as exact as he possibly can. But this does demonstrate that this is an estimate based upon Tory negotiations. If we were doing these negotiations now we would be doing everything we could to protect the economy and protect jobs.
Chuff Labour and Chuff their manifestly incompetent leadership
Moggy wrote:Hexx wrote:It's not the fault of Brexit - but the wrong sort of Brexit says John McDonnellIt is a worrying estimate. I know that Mark Carney is doing his best, and to be as exact as he possibly can. But this does demonstrate that this is an estimate based upon Tory negotiations. If we were doing these negotiations now we would be doing everything we could to protect the economy and protect jobs.
Chuff Labour and Chuff their manifestly incompetent leadership
It’s never the fault of Brexit itself. It’s the fault of Remainers! It’s the EU bullying us! It’s the wrong type of Brexit! We should have hard Brexit! It should be soft Brexit! The Norway model!
twitter.com/steven_woolfe/status/998996832742199297
Moggy wrote:twitter.com/steven_woolfe/status/998996832742199297
UKIP and ex-UKIP people are not very good at maths.
Lagamorph wrote:Boris Johnson has now said he wants his own private Brexit jet.
Hyperion wrote:Moggy wrote:twitter.com/steven_woolfe/status/998996832742199297
UKIP and ex-UKIP people are not very good at maths.
EU rejects May's Ireland border 'backstop' within 24 hours
Brussels has rejected Theresa May's new plan for the Irish border, according to reports.
The Prime Minister's customs proposal was apparently rebuffed less than 24 hours after she set it out in a bid to placate Brexiteers in her cabinet.
European Commission officials claimed Mrs May's plan would be unacceptable and would go back on previous UK commitments.
A day earlier, the PM had said the "backstop" plan to avoid a hard border - which keeps Britain in alignment with the single market and customs union if no other agreement is reached -would be time limited. The move was a bid to assuage Brexiteers such as Boris Johnson, who fear that it would become a backdoor way to keep Britain tied indefinitely to the EU through the customs union and single market.
The controversial fallback looks increasingly likely to come into play, with no other plan for the border in sight and Mrs May's cabinet in turmoil.
European Commission officials close to the talks said British negotiators had already made written commitments for the backstop to apply "unless and until" another solution was found in Northern Ireland, and that there was no way it could be time limited.
Facing a backlash over the plan from her pro-Brexit ministers, Mrs May sought to calm their fears, telling reporters: "If it is necessary, it will be in a very limited set of circumstances for a limited time."
But one Brussels source said: "It will apply for as long as there is no credible alternative.
"It can't be time limited or it's not a backstop."
Commission officials have pointed to the first page of the draft withdrawal agreement, which includes a note, signed off by both sides, stating that the backstop can be ended only if another solution is found.
Squinty wrote:Doesn't seem to be much fuss made over the UK's willingness to pay into these types of things after brexit. I thought they weren't to get another penny because UNELECTED GRAVY TRAIN.
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:Squinty wrote:Doesn't seem to be much fuss made over the UK's willingness to pay into these types of things after brexit. I thought they weren't to get another penny because UNELECTED GRAVY TRAIN.
I'm waiting for the reveal that we will be paying more to the EU than we currently do to remain a member of various parts of it. The reaction from the DM readers will be hilarious but sad at the same time as we will be paying more for less.