NickSCFC wrote:Possibly Brexit related, Vauxhall are in deep doodoo
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... es-plunge/
Overall new car sales were down 5% last year, Vauxhall were down 22% and have lost their 2nd place sales spot to VW, who grew 2%
Moggy wrote:NickSCFC wrote:Possibly Brexit related, Vauxhall are in deep doodoo
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/20 ... es-plunge/
Overall new car sales were down 5% last year, Vauxhall were down 22% and have lost their 2nd place sales spot to VW, who grew 2%
Maybe Opel could buy them?
twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/985998466936721409
“Dr Emma Briant's research gives us a unique insight into the private thoughts of key people at Leave.EU and SCL. The references made by Nigel Oakes from SCL and Andy Wigmore from Leave.EU regarding the propaganda techniques developed by the Nazis are particularly concerning. As Nigel Oakes points out in his conversation with Dr Briant, the Nazis 'leveraged an artificial enemy' to make people scared, and through this to incite hatred of Jewish people.
“Andy Wigmore states that he believes that the propaganda techniques of the Nazi's were 'very clever'. He also confirms that exploiting voters concerns about immigration was central to their campaign during the Brexit referendum. Given the extreme messaging around immigration that was used during the referendum campaign, these statements will raise concerns that data analytics was used to target voters who were concerned about this issue, and to frighten them with messaging designed to create 'an artificial enemy' for them to act against.
"From Dr Briant’s research, it is also clear that Leave.EU benefited from their work with Cambridge Analytica before the decision was made on which Leave campaign would receive the official designation for the referendum. As Andy Wigmore states, they copied the strategy that Cambridge Analytica had given them. There are understandably more questions about how Leave.EU developed their database to do this, and whether consumer data from other companies they had a relationship was used to support their campaign."
"There are also more questions for Alexander Nix about the closeness of his relationship with Julian Assange, given Nigel Oakes's assertion that Mr Nix called up Mr Assange and asked if Cambridge Analytica could help WikiLeaks to disseminate Hillary Clinton's emails, during the US Presidential campaign."
lex-man wrote:So that poster Farage was photographed next to wasn't just coincidentally very similar to a Nazi poster, it was literally ripped off from them.
lex-man wrote:I wonder if Kate Hoey will still defend him?
Squinty wrote:Doesn't really surprise me. Johnny Foreigner, benefits claimants, the EU, soon to be remainers. All scapegoats, to deflect attention away from the real source of failings, and in terms of the referendum, to further the financial and right wing interests of people who should know better.
I've said this before, but I truly believe austerity has been the perfect slow cooker for all of this.
lex-man wrote:Squinty wrote:Doesn't really surprise me. Johnny Foreigner, benefits claimants, the EU, soon to be remainers. All scapegoats, to deflect attention away from the real source of failings, and in terms of the referendum, to further the financial and right wing interests of people who should know better.
I've said this before, but I truly believe austerity has been the perfect slow cooker for all of this.
I think this is actually worse. It seems to me like Leave.EU are actually a front for some pretty hardcore racist views. I really think we need to have a serious look at what they were actually trying to achieve.
Moggy wrote:twitter.com/5goalthriller/status/986218370298204166
"I'm Max," he says with confidence, "Dr Max Gammon, and the best thing about these conferences is the interesting people you meet."
Squinty wrote:Morrissey was the worst thing about an amazing band. Can't say I'd pay much attention to him, as he's a nutter.
European Council president Donald Tusk has warned Britain that there will be no withdrawal agreement and no transition deal unless the problem of the border between Ireland and the UK is solved.
Speaking during a debate in the European Parliament in Strasbourg, Mr Tusk said: "The UK’s decision on Brexit has caused the problem, and the UK will have to solve it.
"Without a solution there will be no withdrawal agreement and no transition".
He added that he hoped "positive momentum" in Brexit talks can help to deal with the outstanding problems.
European People’s Party leader Manfred Weber said Ireland would be supported during the Brexit talks.
"We are all Irish in this regard and we stand clearly behind our Irish friends".
Moggy wrote:Squinty wrote:Morrissey was the worst thing about an amazing band. Can't say I'd pay much attention to him, as he's a nutter.
It comes back to the question of whether it is possible to separate the art from the artist. Morrisey is a colossal prick and that latest interview is a car (or a ten tonne truck) crash of wrongness, but yeah I do still like the Smiths. I balance out the wrongness of giving Morrisey money by eating twice the amount of burgers.
lex-man wrote:Moggy wrote:Squinty wrote:Morrissey was the worst thing about an amazing band. Can't say I'd pay much attention to him, as he's a nutter.
It comes back to the question of whether it is possible to separate the art from the artist. Morrisey is a colossal prick and that latest interview is a car (or a ten tonne truck) crash of wrongness, but yeah I do still like the Smiths. I balance out the wrongness of giving Morrisey money by eating twice the amount of burgers.
I meet one of the audio techs who worked with the Smiths the other day, he told me he thought the worst thing Morrisey ever did was wabble all over Jonny Marr's guitar.
Squinty wrote:So this is deadline day for the Irish Border issue solutio, isn't it? Fun times.
