OrangeMKN wrote:Kezzer wrote:If they don’t do a role call, do you foresee a way that the conformists could win?
It's looking increasingly remote! I think for several legitimate reasons more than an inherent imbalance.
- The early game saw a mass cull of regular members of parliament without losing any roles, which massively reduced the pool of regular members in which the conformists can hide.
- The conformists killed the Foreign Agent who had also failed to take out any roles (and only made the one kill).
- The seer has played an unbelievable blinder with a currently 50% hit rate on seerings!
- A combination of laws has been passed supporting a town seer circle, most significantly in allowing PMs.
- The declared roles are still alive and there is little doubt in thread over their claims.
The imbalance against the conformists in the setup was the high number of roles, which I think has been exacerbated by the way the game has played out, and allowing PMs just being very useful for the town - in retrospect maybe I could have tied a better penalty to it even if it was contrived. The two biggest wins for the conformists have been the Shadow MoJ and the Military Vet, but that hasn't been enough to rebalance the scales.
I think they gambled on finding the seer and that hasn't paid off, leaving them in a worse position than if they'd just taken out declared roles instead.
We prioritised killing Drumstick night 2 to delay the laws (crucially the PMs), but in hindsight we may have been better off killing Kinopio after he role claimed (knowing that the SSA about to pass would verify him), and then Mommy on night 3 when he revealed himself as the vote rigger. This may have made it more difficult for the Seer to get their results out in a trusted way, although I think that with the number of special roles in the game, after the SSA passed it was inevitable that we would end up with trusted players in thread by some method or another. By night 4 it felt almost pointless killing Mommy because it felt like there were enough other role claims in thread without any counter-claims that there were too many options for the seer to PM. Then as you say the fact that so many MPs got hit early doors meant the shortlist of candidates for Conformists was much reduced.
As an aside, I thought that Kinopio's strop on Day 2 moaning about his role not being special enough was a dick move and straight up disrespectful given the time it must take to put together and run these games. We did jokingly discuss killing him on this basis but we'd already pretty much agreed that Drumstick needed to go to slow down the laws passing.