The Poker Thread

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Clarkman** » Tue May 21, 2013 1:17 pm

Thanks guys. Feels so good to close one out and go the whole way.

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Pacman** » Tue May 21, 2013 1:42 pm

Hey guys, what do you think of how I played this hand? Also, what poker forums do you guys post on?

Edit: $1.50 SnG ^

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **PaperMacheMario** » Tue May 21, 2013 1:48 pm

Raise more pre-flop. You could check the flop but betting's fine, although maybe bet slightly more. Turn and river is OK from the size of the bets before. What did the guy have? JQ?

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Pacman** » Tue May 21, 2013 1:53 pm

Yeah, not betting more is where I expected to have gone wrong. Even if my play was generally +EV on this hand (I think it was?) it's a huge leak overall.

:slol:

@ CO

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Nova** » Tue May 21, 2013 1:54 pm

I think the problem there comes with the bet sizing. If you have a strong hand after a raise, make the re-raise 3x (ish, depends on circumstance, but at least that here for me. ). That way, you can isolate the initial raiser so you don't have to play with, essentially, one pair against more than one person.

After that, you need to be moving your chips into the pot faster, for me. Bet 70/80% of the pot to show the guy you mean business. If he's hit (or drawing), they'll often just throw chips at you anyway.

Otherwise, I don't mind betting all the way down there at all. More often than not the guy isn't going to show anything better than KK, and if he has you're just unlucky.

Could be wrong, mind.

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **PaperMacheMario** » Tue May 21, 2013 1:57 pm

I mean if you raise more pre-flop then those sort of hands won't/shouldn't call. By min-raising a min-raise you're pricing everyone into the hand. I think low stakes single table S&Gs are a good way to learn though, once you get a decent feel for them they're fairly easy to consistently finish in the money.

EDIT: @ Pacman, obvs.

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Pacman** » Tue May 21, 2013 2:10 pm

Just fired up SitNGo Wizard which seems to be suggesting I should have pushed all-in preflop in response to the bet. I'm not entirely sure how to use this software (second day of my trial) so I haven't added a range for CO or anything, but wouldn't it be better to reraise just 3x or so (as Nova says) rather than pushing all-in and winning a much smaller pot?

I see how that thinking gets me into trouble, but averaging out over time isn't KK going to do well enough on any flop to make 3x a sufficient reraise?

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **PaperMacheMario** » Tue May 21, 2013 2:19 pm

Yeah, there's no way you should be shoving there with 50 bbs after a min-raise :lol:

I'd probably re-raise to about 200ish after he raises to 60.

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Pacman** » Tue May 21, 2013 2:21 pm

Cheers guys. Definitely a few things I'll remember there :wub:

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Drej** » Tue May 21, 2013 2:50 pm

The main problem with that hand, is that you are playing the 1.50$ SnGs, especially if its on pokerstars and there are a couple of russians on the table who might have probably even called a bigger bet preflop..

But as others suggested, just because the blinds are low, you should not just 3-bet him... Then of course it is always up to you, but Id rather raise the stakes and lose against a decent hand than allow someone to enter the hand with a such a random hand.

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Pacman** » Tue May 21, 2013 4:04 pm

Drej wrote:The main problem with that hand, is that you are playing the 1.50$ SnGs, especially if its on pokerstars and there are a couple of russians on the table

Reminds me of a comment I saw on Youtube the other day:

I think in Russia, poker sites don't have a fold button.

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Drumstick** » Tue May 21, 2013 4:08 pm

Erm... Max Lykov is an EPT winner, holds a WSOP bracelet and is member of Team PokerStars Pro.

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Psychic** » Tue May 21, 2013 4:15 pm

Pacman wrote:Hey guys, what do you think of how I played this hand? Also, what poker forums do you guys post on?

Hero (SB) (t2,200)
BB (t1,090)
UTG (t1,400)
UTG+1 (t1,220)
MP1 (t1,360)
MP2 (t1,290)
MP3 (t1,320)
CO (t1,360)
Button (t2,260)

Hero's M: 48.89

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
1 fold, UTG+1 bets t60, MP1 calls t60, 2 folds, CO calls t60, 1 fold, Hero raises to t90, 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 calls t30, CO calls t30

Flop: (t390) 5, 3, J (4 players)
Hero bets t150, UTG+1 calls t150, 1 fold, CO calls t150

Turn: (t840) 6 (3 players)
Hero bets t450, 1 fold, CO calls t450

River: (t1,740) Q (2 players)
Hero bets t630, CO raises to t670 (All-In), Hero calls t40

Total pot: t3,080

Edit: $1.50 SnG ^

Not a fan of the min-3bet preflop. When you've got a good hand in this sort of situation you want to try and build the pot size and try to thin out the field of opposition players. I'd probably raise to about 300 here to try and accomplish both the previous things I mentioned. If you get one caller you're heads-up in a pot of about 750 which makes it pretty easy to get the rest of your chips in given the size of the stacks.

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Pacman** » Tue May 21, 2013 4:15 pm

Not knocking his play, I was in awe! Still chuckled at the comment though.

Edit: Cheers Sykes.

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Drej** » Tue May 21, 2013 5:07 pm

Drumstick wrote:Erm... Max Lykov is an EPT winner, holds a WSOP bracelet and is member of Team PokerStars Pro.

Pacman wrote:Not knocking his play, I was in awe! Still chuckled at the comment though.

This

and mainly on pokerstars, and on the micro sngs.... the russians will call preflop with any suited card, and they do not have to be short stack, they just love their suited cards

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Slayerx** » Tue May 21, 2013 5:39 pm

So who's up for booking the hotel ?

I'm Down for Day 1c

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Drumstick** » Tue May 21, 2013 7:23 pm

Someone with some organisational skills needs to organise who is definitely coming, what dates they intend to stay for, and set a cut off date to confirm everything. Normally I would do this but I'll most likely be stopping at Aaron and Rex's so there's no need for me to be involved.

That said, I'd be happy to organise it if people want me to.

I think there's just the four of you that have mentioned to me that you want to play the Goliath but would need to arrange accommodation (DML, PPM, Nova and Slayer).

Still, I'd set a cut off date (end of June-ish) for you four and maybe others here to confirm whether they are in for definite and then book the rooms. Keep in mind that this tournament attracts a LOT of people from all over the UK so you might not want to leave it even that long.

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Slayerx** » Tue May 21, 2013 7:50 pm

I was hoping to have it all sorted asap but your more awesome at arranging things

I'll be also booking my Mega Bus by the end of the week.

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Nova** » Tue May 21, 2013 8:41 pm

I would be willing to organise this, but I need people to tell me what is happening. Who will be coming to the Goliath? I will only need accommodation from Day 1d onwards. Slayer, if necessary, could you organise your own room for the 1c if noone else is going then, and then I'll organise the rest?

Who seems to be coming so far? What about Sat/Luw?

PostRe: The Poker Thread by **Slayerx** » Tue May 21, 2013 8:55 pm

Thats fine i'm looking to travel down the morning of the 22nd.

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