PES 2014 thread - "Messi on the pitch, messy off it"

•The weather will affect the game and make the kits dirty
•Goalkeepers animations have changed considerably
•Players will be able to change teams and coach a national team in Master League mode
•League mode for multiplayer online will be available on PES 2014
•There will be more emblem slots on Edit Mode
•Third kits will be available in the game or as DLC (no plan for paid DLC)
•There won’t be offline community mode but additional features on myPES will cover that
•PES 2014 will be available on Steam and other online services on the release date
•PES 2014 will have new stat system, using a combined stat page to equate values. Goalkeepers will have their own stats as well

NickSCFC wrote:

•PES 2014 will have new stat system, using a combined stat page to equate values. Goalkeepers will have their own stats as well

Ginga wrote:If we're going to have impressions, can we have them from independent sources rather than Pro Evolution fan blogs and people who are working with Konami to promote the title? Facts and updates on news are fair game but the stuff a page ago was garbage.

Minto wrote:Might as well rename this thread "NickSCFC talks up PES 2014"

NickSCFC wrote:

Ginga wrote:If we're going to have impressions, can we have them from independent sources rather than Pro Evolution fan blogs and people who are working with Konami to promote the title? Facts and updates on news are fair game but the stuff a page ago was garbage.

I'll post any impressions I find that aren't in Spanish, sadly the British gaming press is a little dumbed down compared to other countries and so far repeating Konami's press releases is the closest I can find to impressions outside the community.

As for the 'garbage', you obviously didn't read the whole article as there were negative points too.


Anyway, another gif, love the way that just before the end he has to slow down and lean in before knocking the ball ahead, the animation in his arms just suit the whole thing perfectly, never seen this level of detail in momentum in a fooball game before.




Hnnng...

NickSCFC wrote:It was from Konami's features video showing off the new tricks (notice the defender to the left of him move away too?), if you pulled that off in the game you'd more than likely get clattered.

PaperPacheMario wrote:See, I love the movement from Ribery in that gif but the defender's actions is unrealistic, he wouldn't calmly jog backwards there. He'd panic and sprint towards him, especially as it seems like he's defending inside his own penalty area.

NickSCFC wrote:

Minto wrote:Might as well rename this thread "NickSCFC talks up PES 2014"

Edit: Done

Schumi wrote:

PaperPacheMario wrote:See, I love the movement from Ribery in that gif but the defender's actions is unrealistic, he wouldn't calmly jog backwards there. He'd panic and sprint towards him, especially as it seems like he's defending inside his own penalty area.

It's just scripted reactions to the trick, FIFA is the same too. You do a trick, and defenders stutter/stick out a leg so to justify you doing the trick, it's bullshit at its finest, and both games are guilty of it.

On the Bayern v Bayern video on the last page there's a bit where Robben does a feint, and the two centrebacks who are both miles away just suddenly charge forward 10 yards for no reason other than the feint triggered something to make them do that.

My first match was with the AI. Bayern (me) vs Santos (AI). The intro where the players come out of the tunnels and start warming up on the pitch was very pleasing, players weren’t all doing the same thing with 2 or 3 set animations, most of them were varied. It was nice to see a more realistic flow to the beginning of a match. And wow, the visuals were truly amazing. A marked improvement from previous versions.

As I kicked off, the core game-play changes were ‘immediately’ noticeable. I mean it wasn’t change that you’d expect one year on. It was HUGE, the fluidity and general movement was on another level. Just playing a minute or so, I saw loads of new animations. The new Engine has truly done wonders to this game. So players are definitely not on rails.

The game-play is a lot slower. Konami have been tweaking PES to match real life games and I feel the pace in PES2014 is near perfect. I loved the player physicality, the way small players would swift though and big players like Dante would put all their weight into protecting the ball. Passing the ball around the pitch and seeing all these new animations was a joy to watch. Players like Ribery and Robben would automatically do subtle flick / back passes rather than your standard straight pass and move. This is probably where Player ID comes in. When controlling a player like Arjen Robben, he mirrors his real life counterpart in every way, he even runs like a girl in the game . You can see his hands flailing.

AI: This is one of the main things I was looking forward to seeing. As I play a lot of ML offline, I was hoping the AI got a massive revamp. And to my relief they absolutely have been! You won’t see them barging forward 24/7 and passing robotically. The AI actually plays more like a human. If they find that they can’t pass the ball forward as you are blocking off their options, they won’t just hoof the ball forward. They’ll turn back and start over again. It kind of adds to that continuous play feature, rather than the ball going out its kept on the pitch much longer. People have been urging Konami to make them a lot harder as well and they definitely are! When I say harder I don’t mean they’ll score a lot more, but they actually play the game better and make you work a lot harder. I drew 0-0.

After that first match with the AI, I had a few rounds with @DJDaymos, @FrazerYoung & half a match with @NicholasDiMaria. The amount of times we were wowed and amazed by the animations, It’s not just that they’ve added a lot more, but the way they link together and work towards making the feel of the game a lot better, it’s just tremendous. It actually might turn out to be better than the other game that excels in this department.

Long passes and shots have been changed for the better, no longer does the ball just ping to a player when you full power pass it, it actually goes out of play and swerves in the direction you hit it at. The ball feels a lot more in your control than it is on a rail. Even when shooting, I remember Damien go through my defense and have a clear shot on goal. He held down the power bar and it struck the woodwork rather than getting pile-drived into the net.

Through balls has seen a MAJOR enhancement, this feature actually brings a massive smile to my face, its brilliant! It’s called advanced through ball and was switched off at default, when we switched it on you could literally see the difference. At first this is very hard and a bit confusing but once you get used to it, that toggle is fantastic. You can actually bend the ball to the player who’s making that attacking run, a circle indicator pops up when you push the Tri angle button and I think it was the right analogue stick that controlled the path the ball swerved to. It’s hard to explain but once you guys see it you’ll know how good it is .

I found one on one situations difficult, I could not for the life of me easily go past a defender with a player of Robbens calibre. Konami have definitely calibrated this part of the game by making it a lot more balanced and realistic. People have been asking me about the speedster card, and going by what I’ve seen and played I don’t think we should be worried about that anymore.

Defending was good, frustrating at times but that’s probably down to the core changes and needing to get used to the game. The double tap x to put a leg out for the ball feels better. And again, the new animations make those lunges and tackles look more satisfying. Love the way players don’t fall or stumble when getting tackled, they actually hold their ground and keep on going!

Overall the Goalkeepers have seen an improvement, they’re not the best, (remember this is an early code) but still way better than previous iterations. The new animations definitely help in this department.

Regarding the Referee, they have been worked on, but personally think they need more refining and fine tuning. The matches I played; the referee had a habit of giving away a lot of cards. I actually got red carded 4 times in a match I played with Frazer, and he received 2 reds in the same match. I would like to see the ref give more advantages and let the play go on.

Atmosphere! The crowd chants feel more like real people singing and shouting than generic moans and yays. The crowd actually get on your back and jeer when you foul the home team player. Plus the voices seem more diverse. When looking around the stadium, you’ll see many more extras added, like more guards, high visibility people, regular staff members + more. It just adds to that overall visual satisfaction. Definitely happy with what Konami have done in this department.

There’s so much more to the game, and more to be added and refined till final release. Can’t wait to see the difference from this version to the demo. You actually have to play the game to realise how much Konami have put into PES2014. So whoever had doubts, fear not, it’s a totally different game in a good way. Konami aren’t taking steps anymore, they’re taking leaps! This is the game the fans have been crying out for, this is the game that people will be raving about. School kids, workers, managers will be buzzing to go home and play it.

The Fox has awakened the true heir to the throne.

Dblock wrote:pes fanboys are horrible liars.

Dante wrote:Why not compare PES 14 and Fifa 14 character models for a fair comparison Nick?

Preezy wrote:

Dante wrote:Why not compare PES 14 and Fifa 14 character models for a fair comparison Nick?

But that wouldn't help his cause silly

Minto wrote:

Dblock wrote:pes fanboys are horrible liars.

Liars may be a bit harsh but deffo massively biased.