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Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:46 pm
by Return_of_the_STAR
It would appear two waves of drones on their way. Will be interesting to see if any make it through, I hope they aren’t followed up by missiles in a similar fashion to how we’ve seen Russia attempt to overwhelm Ukrainian air defences.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 9:55 pm
by Cuttooth
Ecno wrote:I thought this was directly related to Gaza, but it seems it's retaliatory for a Damascus strike. Last time the Iranians did this after the killing of Solemani (sp?), it was purposely benign (as far as retaliatory missle strikes go). So if there's no follow up missile launches I'm assuming the signal is, we can agree enough is enough..... Hopefully.

Considering it will take hours for the drones to reach Israel hopefully it is just more for show than anything and can be de-escalated once they are likely all shot down. Anything else is a pretty terrifying prospect.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:01 pm
by Grumpy David
Return_of_the_STAR wrote:It would appear two waves of drones on their way. Will be interesting to see if any make it through, I hope they aren’t followed up by missiles in a similar fashion to how we’ve seen Russia attempt to overwhelm Ukrainian air defences.


Sky News are saying it's a mix of drones and cruise missiles now.

But if it's only "dozens of drones" that doesn’t sound like it should overwhelm Iron Dome. Anything too successful would presumably mean Israel destroys their manufacturing capability to build drones (probably also helps out Ukraine too).

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:49 pm
by still
Ugh. One religion at war with another religion for what. You think your god has got a bigger pair of balls than mine? What the actual strawberry float is wrong with us? I’d describe myself as extremely spiritual but not religious in any way. When, (ok we never will and innocents will suffer forever accordingly), will we ever learn to just tolerate each other’s beliefs? I despair.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:57 pm
by Hexx
Iran consider it "done" as response to recent events, i.e. "stopping hitting us 'first'" and an act of legitimate "defence" under UN articles/

“Iran’s military action was in response to the Zionist regime’s aggression against our diplomatic premises in Damascus,” Iran’s mission to the UN has said in a post on X.

The matter can be deemed concluded. However, should the Israeli regime make another mistake, Iran’s response will be considerably more sever


Netanyahu playing Biden like a fool.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:15 am
by Monkey Man
US, Jordanian & maybe UK involved in shooting down the drones/missles -

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Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 3:05 am
by Alvin Flummux
Israel bombing Iran's embassy to Syria was a straight up act of war. They're trying to draw Iran into a full war, which they know will inevitably bring in the US. They're emboldened to attack other countries like this because nobody is holding them accountable.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 7:31 am
by Carlos
still wrote:Ugh. One religion at war with another religion for what. You think your god has got a bigger pair of balls than mine? What the actual strawberry float is wrong with us? I’d describe myself as extremely spiritual but not religious in any way. When, (ok we never will and innocents will suffer forever accordingly), will we ever learn to just tolerate each other’s beliefs? I despair.


Even if there was no religion in the region you’d still have the tribal ethnic hostilities. You could atheise the whole planet and humans would still be human; they’d just do it in the name of a leader instead of a deity.

I’m not saying it doesn’t play a part, just that it wouldn’t make much difference.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 10:24 am
by SEP
still wrote:Ugh. One religion at war with another religion for what. You think your god has got a bigger pair of balls than mine? What the actual strawberry float is wrong with us? I’d describe myself as extremely spiritual but not religious in any way. When, (ok we never will and innocents will suffer forever accordingly), will we ever learn to just tolerate each other’s beliefs? I despair.


The sad thing is, it's all the same god.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:42 pm
by speedboatchase
Alvin Flummux wrote:Israel bombing Iran's embassy to Syria was a straight up act of war. They're trying to draw Iran into a full war, which they know will inevitably bring in the US. They're emboldened to attack other countries like this because nobody is holding them accountable.


Absolutely. Nothing here - not to sound like a conspiracy nut - is what it appears on the surface.

In Oct, Iran (fighting for the Ummah's favour from an Islamist angle vs Saudi's MBS-led high-tech, relatively liberalising approach) activated its proxies Hamas and Hezbollah to attack on Oct 7th, knowing that Israel's insane response would cripple or at least put a pause on Saudi allies' Abraham Accord normalisation and what seemed like the eventual beginnings of Israel/Saudi ties.

Israel now has nothing to show for the last six months aside from severely testing their closest allies with a scorched earth policy in Gaza, and Netanyahu is facing pressure from the far right who want his job and hostage families who want a ceasefire. So he's decided to goad the side really pulling the strings, Iran, into a response that will lead to a further Israeli response and if Netanyahu gets his wish, a more daring counter-response from Iran that brings US directly into the conflict. You can tell by Iran's response - the attack and the reasoning - that they don't want to escalate and would rather buy time to build nuclear capability. But if Israel responds and Iran responds hard to that, we potentially have the first salvos of WW3 if Russia/China steps in to defend Iran. Fun times.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:14 pm
by Albert

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:24 pm
by Albert
I see Sunak has decided now is the time to Tweet and condemn Iran. Absolute embarrasment.

There's evil on both sides, and how you can just condemn one in such blatant disregard to the other is a farce.

Would love to know what the majority of UK and US people think about all of this. I remember the Gulf/Afghanistan wars having a lot of public support, but this feels so much more polarising and a blatent support of war crimes.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 2:58 pm
by Moggy

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:14 pm
by Albert
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Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:15 pm
by Tomous
She the transphobic one?

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:25 pm
by Moggy
Tomous wrote:She the transphobic one?


That. Plus she likes to rant about the homeless "choosing" to live in tents because it's easier than obeying the system. And then they cause lots of crime.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:36 pm
by Tomous
Rachel Riley having a normal one on Twitter regarding the Sydney attack.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:40 pm
by Godzilla
Tomous wrote:Rachel Riley having a normal one on Twitter regarding the Sydney attack.


She's been a horrible bully for a long time. But she has gone full JK Rowling with this latest outburst. Channel 4 sould sack her as people have been sa ked for less.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:45 pm
by Neo Cortex
SEP wrote:
still wrote:Ugh. One religion at war with another religion for what. You think your god has got a bigger pair of balls than mine? What the actual strawberry float is wrong with us? I’d describe myself as extremely spiritual but not religious in any way. When, (ok we never will and innocents will suffer forever accordingly), will we ever learn to just tolerate each other’s beliefs? I despair.


The sad thing is, it's all the same god.


Reminds me of Red Dwarf with the cats, and if I recall going to war over different colour hats.

Re: Israel-Gaza Conflict

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:59 pm
by Tomous
Godzilla wrote:
Tomous wrote:Rachel Riley having a normal one on Twitter regarding the Sydney attack.


She's been a horrible bully for a long time. But she has gone full JK Rowling with this latest outburst. Channel 4 sould sack her as people have been sa ked for less.


Yep this is pretty bad:

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