Denster presents: The 4K/8K HDR HDTV Thread

KK wrote:Any of these 5. If gaming is your only or main consideration, bin off the Sony. If you want in-built satellite tuners, bin off the Panasonic.

LG B2 (£1,100 or less)
LG C2 (£1,200 or less)
LG G2 (£1,500 or less) - wall mountable only. There is a separate stand but it seems to be rather difficult to get hold of.
Panasonic LZ2000 (£2,000 or less)
Sony A9 (£2,100 or less)

They’re all OLED, 4K and 55”. The more expensive models do get a bit brighter than the cheaper televisions.

Cheers for the information!

I am looking at Panasonic LZ2000, LG C2 and Samsung QN95. I'm not sure about Samsung and what's the difference between the C2 and G2?

Samsung also have some excellent televisions, and have recently adopted (QD) OLED panels, but don't support Dolby Vision High Dynamic Range and they tend to have weaker sound compared to competing brands (this may not be an issue for you however, as many people tend to favour an additional sound bar).

The Samsung QN95 uses Mini-LED instead of OLED.

The G2 gets a bit brighter than the C2, thus producing marginally more vibrant HDR, and unusually for a TV doesn't come with a stand so has to be wall-mounted out of the box.

KK wrote:Samsung also have some excellent televisions, and have recently adopted (QD) OLED panels, but don't support Dolby Vision High Dynamic Range and they tend to have weaker sound compared to competing brands (this may not be an issue for you however, as many people tend to favour an additional sound bar).

The Samsung QN95 uses Mini-LED instead of OLED.

The G2 gets a bit brighter than the C2, thus producing marginally more vibrant HDR, and unusually for a TV doesn't come with a stand so has to be wall-mounted out of the box.

Cheers.

The sound issue is not important to me, like you said. Finding the right TV isn't easy, I think. :lol:

Don't ever buy a Sony TV.

Always go for the biggest set you can.

Victor has an irrational hatred of the Sony A9!

There’s no such thing as the perfect TV, and all the flagship TVs from the big brands (even Philips, come to think of it) are offering up excellent products, but if you’re really into your movies then the A9 is the current closest to a reference grade monitor (though not out of the box). If you can’t be arsed with all that menu stuff (HDTV Test on YouTube if you are), then in terms of one-button accuracy you’d be best off with the Panasonic LZ2000.

If you want an all-in-one solution (rather than a separate sound bar) then again the Panasonic LZ2000 is very good, as is the Philips OLED+937 (basically they’ve just attached a whopping great Bowers & Wilkins bar to it; major caveat being it’s the weakest of the aforementioned TVs for gaming, as 4K at 120fps is displayed at half resolution) or, HEAVEN FORBID, Sky Glass. Well, the TV itself is crap - a complete non-starter for modern video games - but you can’t knock the sound. It’s worth checking out the Sony A9 in Currys or John Lewis just to experience the way the sound emanates from the screen. It doesn’t have the power of a sound bar or system unfortunately, but the way the audio comes directly from where a person’s mouth is on screen is undeniably brilliant, and it also resolves the issue of sound lag some people end up experiencing with their audio equipment.

Most people here are obviously most interested in gaming performance at a completive price, which is an area LG tend to lead in, and nothing matches the value and all-round abilities of an LG C2.

It's CES in January when all the new TV's get announced.
I'm hoping for more sets to have simple screen calibration as I always find it annoying that it's hard to get the best out of a screen.

I don't want 8k
I do want better HDR.

Victor Mildew wrote:Don't ever buy a Sony TV.

Always go for the biggest set you can.

Don't worry. I wouldn't buy a Sony TV as I had one in the past and it was disaster.

KK wrote:Victor has an irrational hatred of the Sony A9!

There’s no such thing as the perfect TV, and all the flagship TVs from the big brands (even Philips, come to think of it) are offering up excellent products, but if you’re really into your movies then the A9 is the current closest to a reference grade monitor (though not out of the box). If you can’t be arsed with all that menu stuff (HDTV Test on YouTube if you are), then in terms of one-button accuracy you’d be best off with the Panasonic LZ2000.

If you want an all-in-one solution (rather than a separate sound bar) then again the Panasonic LZ2000 is very good, as is the Philips OLED+937 (basically they’ve just attached a whopping great Bowers & Wilkins bar to it; major caveat being it’s the weakest of the aforementioned TVs for gaming, as 4K at 120fps is displayed at half resolution) or, HEAVEN FORBID, Sky Glass. Well, the TV itself is crap - a complete non-starter for modern video games - but you can’t knock the sound. It’s worth checking out the Sony A9 in Currys or John Lewis just to experience the way the sound emanates from the screen. It doesn’t have the power of a sound bar or system unfortunately, but the way the audio comes directly from where a person’s mouth is on screen is undeniably brilliant, and it also resolves the issue of sound lag some people end up experiencing with their audio equipment

Most people here are obviously most interested in gaming performance at a completive price, which is an area LG tend to lead in, and nothing matches the value and all-round abilities of an LG C2.

Cheers.

It's either LG C2 or JZ2000 now I think.

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/lg-ol ... 35948.html

Or

https://www.currys.co.uk/products/panas ... 40513.html

Hmm... It will be using mostly for the PS5 and Virgin V6 box.

The C2, purely because that Panasonic one seems vastly overpriced for a 55" TV

I’m interested in a c2, anyone who has one what is the basic sound like?

I’m thinking I probably need to budget for a matching sound bar?

I’m hoping a nice bundle will come up in the sales. Had a little look around tonight but no major discounts unless I’m mistaken… fancy a 65 but maybe 55 is more realistic

It’ll be to replace a Sony viera which is a great tv, though only hd

What would your soundbar budget be? If you can stretch to even a mediocre amp and separates, it'll sound way better

I bought the C2 55" today and I've set it up, but I haven't done it properly as I am visiting my family for Boxing Day today.

I'll be home tomorrow so I can set it up and go through with it in depth.

I could have gone for the 65" but the budget is a bit out of my limit and it may be too big for my living room. I decided the 55" is ideal size.

I'll give my impressions in a few days.

Rocsteady wrote:What would your soundbar budget be? If you can stretch to even a mediocre amp and separates, it'll sound way better

tbh don’t wanna do more than like 3-400, I’d like that dolby thing that goes up so you don’t need speakers behind you, and a sub

I’d probably be a rube and get something lg just so it matches also

Would be interesting to hear your take bor cheers

sexy mrs claus wrote:
Rocsteady wrote:What would your soundbar budget be? If you can stretch to even a mediocre amp and separates, it'll sound way better

tbh don’t wanna do more than like 3-400, I’d like that dolby thing that goes up so you don’t need speakers behind you, and a sub

I’d probably be a rube and get something lg just so it matches also

I got an atmos soundbar and found it still needed additional rear speakers to complete the sound space. Sounded good without them but the up firing speakers are really for upper sounds and don't move sounds behind convincingly. With the rears added to it, the sound is brilliant.

Well that’s a strawberry floater… I can’t really be arsed and don’t really have the space for setting up behind speakers

For those with a PS5 or Xbox Series X, make sure you choose a soundbar that has HDMI 2.1 (eARC enabled) pass-through sockets capable of handling 4K at 120Hz, Dolby Vision HDR, Auto Low Latency Mode and Variable Refresh Rates. If you want to be particularly future proofed, you can throw 8K at 60Hz in there as well.

Basically, if you’re plugging your consoles and other devices into the soundbar, you want it to be capable of everything that your newly purchased TV is.

Good tips ty

I wouldn’t say it replicates the sound of having actual speakers behind you, but I have got a Sonos Beam Gen 2 and I think it sounds excellent - it has Atmos and does a great job of ‘filling the room’, I would say. You can also then easily add some Soho’s Ones for rear speakers if and when the mood takes you.

Ordered a c2 today, was gonna get the s9ya speaker too but the stock was strawberry floated and it took ages so in the end I strawberry floated them off, Im away for a few days so should arrive not long after I come back home

Will see about ordering a bar later I think, see what the stock does - I’ll check the sonos stuff too

+1 for the Sonos Beam, it's a really nice piece of kit. Nice that you can add to it at a later date too, a pair of Sonos Ones as rears and a Sub if you really want the full experience.

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