Are You A Moderator? - The End

Albear wrote:
teh bork wrote:This. Though surely there still can't be doubt about Parksey. What does he have to do?

What has he done that makes you trust him so much?

I've got a long list of reasons why I don't trust him, so maybe you can help me and the other distrusters out

So why do you distrust him or are you simply trying to remove a threat?

FWIW part of the reason I was up until an ungodly hour last night quizzing Parksey was an attempt to let him tangle his sleep-addled brain up in a fit of knots and trip over something factual to prove he wasn't who he said he was. He didn't. Not once. He's the real deal.

Herbi's right.

Guessing at someone being a RFM is no grounds to trust them implicitly. :fp:

I still can't believe two of our Seers apparently approached G-Rat the very first night after they had seered him.

jiggles wrote:
C.Y.N.T.H.I.A wrote:None of the other moderators, not even Evil Admin Steve, knew of his presence.

CYNTHIA already clarified it. about 150 pages ago.

They knew he was a Mod, just didn't know of his secret power. :fp:

teh bork wrote:
He said DML was a RFM, he was right. Unless somehow the Mods have some way of disguising their roles then I'm pretty sure it's safe to say he is who he is.

There are more RFM's than any other role out there.

Its easier to get that guess right than it would be to get it wrong.

It's not surprising we lose so many special roles if that is all it takes to fully trust someone.

jiggles wrote:
C.Y.N.T.H.I.A wrote:None of the other moderators, not even Evil Admin Steve, knew of his presence.

Didn't know of his presence as James@GR. They did know he was a mod. Jiggles, this was established days ago!

Quoted for the new page as this should be everyone's stance on Parksey. As a smart individual Parksey should be able to appreciate this.

Herbi wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Herbi wrote:
teh bork wrote:
Dangerblade wrote:Guys can we lynch Jenko tomorrow please? It will tell us one of the following:

1) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact a Mod [Result: A Mod is killed]
2) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact Evil Admin Steve [Result: Evil Admin Steve is killed]
3) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact a Regular Forum Member [Result: Needless, attention-seeking distraction is killed]
4) He's telling the truth about being a Detective [Result: G-Rat is a Mod and so is Parksey]

EDIT: 4) would incriminate Parksey, too.

This. Though surely there still can't be doubt about Parksey. What does he have to do?

Provide some evidence that anything he says is true

he said dml was seered that he was RFM or EAS which he was,

That can be explained away as a guess as the chances were DML was a RFM. I'm not saying Parkseys a Mod but after today he is a long strawberry floating way from having no doubt over him.

Teh Bork the burden of proof is on me if I'm trying to prove Parksey is lying, which I'm not. As he is currently trying to get everyone to trust him the burden of proof is on him. It's quite simple.

Albear, have you considered running for Peoples Mayor? I was wondering who your suspects were.

Jiggles needs to go up for the lynch now simply because he didn't even know about SD's role. :lol:

Well, I didn't know that.

Anyway, I'm only holding up my own (and satriales') end of the deal by posting his name.

satriales wrote:I was only keeping in the shadows as on Day 1 I got staydead killed and so became probably the most trustworthy person, and thus prime target for the mods to kill me.

I'd rather not die just yet as it's good fun, but I would have gone along with the suicide mission as it meant taking out EAS and mods in one go. Looking at the tower rules further it seems only 3 get killed if EAS is in the group so it's possible they would survive, but you'd still know someone in the group was EAS as the game instant failed.

I'm confident of DML and Parksey anyway, so if whoever gets lynched is normal then you can put me up for lynch the next day.

I don't know what more could possibly be expected of me in this situation.

Herbi wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Herbi wrote:
teh bork wrote:
Dangerblade wrote:Guys can we lynch Jenko tomorrow please? It will tell us one of the following:

1) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact a Mod [Result: A Mod is killed]
2) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact Evil Admin Steve [Result: Evil Admin Steve is killed]
3) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact a Regular Forum Member [Result: Needless, attention-seeking distraction is killed]
4) He's telling the truth about being a Detective [Result: G-Rat is a Mod and so is Parksey]

EDIT: 4) would incriminate Parksey, too.

This. Though surely there still can't be doubt about Parksey. What does he have to do?

Provide some evidence that anything he says is true

he said dml was seered that he was RFM or EAS which he was,

That can be explained away as a guess as the chances were DML was a RFM. I'm not saying Parkseys a Mod but after today he is a long strawberry floating way from having no doubt over him.

Teh Bork the burden of proof is on me if I'm trying to prove Parksey is lying, which I'm not. As he is currently trying to get everyone to trust him the burden of proof is on him. It's quite simple.

What more can he do? Even if he uses his power you'll still have people casting doubt. And let's be honest he can't reveal the seers and witch doctor without screwing them over.

Right now this paranoia and doubt is playing into the hands of the mods. There are people in here who need closer inspection, but instead we're ignoring them to shoot ourselves in the foot.

So basically Sat thought he knew more than he did and got it wrong?

He didn't claim to be a Seer or anything like that.

teh bork wrote:
Herbi wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Herbi wrote:
teh bork wrote:
Dangerblade wrote:Guys can we lynch Jenko tomorrow please? It will tell us one of the following:

1) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact a Mod [Result: A Mod is killed]
2) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact Evil Admin Steve [Result: Evil Admin Steve is killed]
3) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact a Regular Forum Member [Result: Needless, attention-seeking distraction is killed]
4) He's telling the truth about being a Detective [Result: G-Rat is a Mod and so is Parksey]

EDIT: 4) would incriminate Parksey, too.

This. Though surely there still can't be doubt about Parksey. What does he have to do?

Provide some evidence that anything he says is true

he said dml was seered that he was RFM or EAS which he was,

That can be explained away as a guess as the chances were DML was a RFM. I'm not saying Parkseys a Mod but after today he is a long strawberry floating way from having no doubt over him.

Teh Bork the burden of proof is on me if I'm trying to prove Parksey is lying, which I'm not. As he is currently trying to get everyone to trust him the burden of proof is on him. It's quite simple.

What more can he do? Even if he uses his power you'll still have people casting doubt. And let's be honest he can't reveal the seers and witch doctor without screwing them over.

Right now this paranoia and doubt is playing into the hands of the mods. There are people in here who need closer inspection, but instead we're ignoring them to shoot ourselves in the foot.

this, there is a point where you just have take a risk.

I wish we'd gone into the tower.

Zellery wrote:So basically Sat thought he knew more than he did and got it wrong?

He didn't claim to be a Seer or anything like that.

I've always said he wasn't claiming to be a seer..

Parksey and his 'network' can get us a Mod or identify a Seer or other special role who is subsequently killed.

Those would be my circumstances for trusting him and they should be for every RFM. Obviously I'd rather the latter not happen unless in desperate circumstances.

And I don't think you guys appreciate that we currently are trusting Parksey by voting him in as mayor, very few of us are actively pursuing a course of action to get him killed.

jiggles wrote:
Zellery wrote:So basically Sat thought he knew more than he did and got it wrong?

He didn't claim to be a Seer or anything like that.

I've always said he wasn't claiming to be a seer..

No, you're quite right. I remember you saying before.

Okay.

teh bork wrote:
Herbi wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Herbi wrote:
teh bork wrote:
Dangerblade wrote:Guys can we lynch Jenko tomorrow please? It will tell us one of the following:

1) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact a Mod [Result: A Mod is killed]
2) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact Evil Admin Steve [Result: Evil Admin Steve is killed]
3) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact a Regular Forum Member [Result: Needless, attention-seeking distraction is killed]
4) He's telling the truth about being a Detective [Result: G-Rat is a Mod and so is Parksey]

EDIT: 4) would incriminate Parksey, too.

This. Though surely there still can't be doubt about Parksey. What does he have to do?

Provide some evidence that anything he says is true

he said dml was seered that he was RFM or EAS which he was,

That can be explained away as a guess as the chances were DML was a RFM. I'm not saying Parkseys a Mod but after today he is a long strawberry floating way from having no doubt over him.

Teh Bork the burden of proof is on me if I'm trying to prove Parksey is lying, which I'm not. As he is currently trying to get everyone to trust him the burden of proof is on him. It's quite simple.

What more can he do? Even if he uses his power you'll still have people casting doubt. And let's be honest he can't reveal the seers and witch doctor without screwing them over.

Right now this paranoia and doubt is playing into the hands of the mods. There are people in here who need closer inspection, but instead we're ignoring them to shoot ourselves in the foot.

No, people trusting others with very little evidence is the reason we have lost so many special roles. A bit of doubt is not a bad thing in this game.

Why would I or anyone else implicitly trust Parksey? What evidence has he given or action he has taken that makes him a proven innocent?

You seem to be so sure that he is trustworthy, why?

Until we here from a verified special role that Parksey is good or he lands us a Mod, there is absolutely no reason to trust him fully.

Only a complete fool would.

Albear wrote:
teh bork wrote:
Herbi wrote:
Errkal wrote:
Herbi wrote:
teh bork wrote:
Dangerblade wrote:Guys can we lynch Jenko tomorrow please? It will tell us one of the following:

1) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact a Mod [Result: A Mod is killed]
2) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact Evil Admin Steve [Result: Evil Admin Steve is killed]
3) He's lied about being a Detective and he is in fact a Regular Forum Member [Result: Needless, attention-seeking distraction is killed]
4) He's telling the truth about being a Detective [Result: G-Rat is a Mod and so is Parksey]

EDIT: 4) would incriminate Parksey, too.

This. Though surely there still can't be doubt about Parksey. What does he have to do?

Provide some evidence that anything he says is true

he said dml was seered that he was RFM or EAS which he was,

That can be explained away as a guess as the chances were DML was a RFM. I'm not saying Parkseys a Mod but after today he is a long strawberry floating way from having no doubt over him.

Teh Bork the burden of proof is on me if I'm trying to prove Parksey is lying, which I'm not. As he is currently trying to get everyone to trust him the burden of proof is on him. It's quite simple.

What more can he do? Even if he uses his power you'll still have people casting doubt. And let's be honest he can't reveal the seers and witch doctor without screwing them over.

Right now this paranoia and doubt is playing into the hands of the mods. There are people in here who need closer inspection, but instead we're ignoring them to shoot ourselves in the foot.

No, people trusting others with very little evidence is the reason we have lost so many special roles. A bit of doubt is not a bad thing in this game.

Why would I or anyone else implicitly trust Parksey? What evidence has he given or action he has taken that makes him a proven innocent?

You seem to be so sure that he is trustworthy, why?

Because is sort of all we have. strawberry float sakes if we dont we will end up getting no where. its better to take the risk that sitting acting like pussies.

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